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Requirement to fly departure procedures
I was always under the assumption that if my atc clearance received on
the ground was direct to a fix, I was free to forgo the departure procedure and do an immediate turn after takeoff. I note that FAR 91.129, Operations in class D airspace states that: "(g) Departures. No person may operate an aircraft departing from an airport except in compliance with the following: (1) Each pilot must comply with any departure procedures established for that airport by the FAA." So how, on a good weather delay, can one avoid flying the departure procedure? Note the word "established" vice "assigned" Stan |
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So how, on a good weather delay, can one avoid flying the departure procedure? Depart VFR and pick up your clearance in the air? |
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The regulations are probably the worst place to look for answers to
procedural questions. Try reading AIM 5-2-6 in its entirety. That "immediate turn" should be no lower than 400' agl. Second, you are forgoing the obstacle protection afforded by the DP. Not real wise IMHO. Bob Gardner wrote in message ... I was always under the assumption that if my atc clearance received on the ground was direct to a fix, I was free to forgo the departure procedure and do an immediate turn after takeoff. I note that FAR 91.129, Operations in class D airspace states that: "(g) Departures. No person may operate an aircraft departing from an airport except in compliance with the following: (1) Each pilot must comply with any departure procedures established for that airport by the FAA." So how, on a good weather delay, can one avoid flying the departure procedure? Note the word "established" vice "assigned" Stan |
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In my Jepp plate binder, in addition to the published DPs, there are
obstacle departure procedures for every airport with an approach, including those without the traditional DPs. Here's an example of an obstacle DP for Red Bluff, CA (KRBL) which does not have a published DP: "Rwy 15, climb direct RBL VOR. Rwy 33, climbing right turn direct RBL VOR. All aircraft departing RBL R-091 clockwise to RBL R-200 climb on course. All others climb in RBL VOR holding pattern (hold south, right turns, 341 degree inbound) to depart RBL at or above: RBL R-021 clockwise to RBL R-060 4500', RBL R-061 clockwise to RBL R-090 2100', RBL R-201 clockwise to RBL R-270 4000', RBL R-271 clockwise to R-020 2400'. Some are much briefer, and others more complicated. My old CFII turned me on to these, and said they are also in the NACO TERPS books somewhere, but being a Jepp-ster, I've never seen one. The verbiage sure sounds FAA-ish though. From a regulatory standpoint, I've never seen the obstacle DPs referenced. I wonder if they count towards that 'any departure procedures' you saw in 91.129 If launching IFR, even with terrain data in the cockpit on a good weather day, I'm going to follow the obstacle DP, especially at an unfamiliar airport. wrote in message ... I was always under the assumption that if my atc clearance received on the ground was direct to a fix, I was free to forgo the departure procedure and do an immediate turn after takeoff. I note that FAR 91.129, Operations in class D airspace states that: "(g) Departures. No person may operate an aircraft departing from an airport except in compliance with the following: (1) Each pilot must comply with any departure procedures established for that airport by the FAA." So how, on a good weather delay, can one avoid flying the departure procedure? Note the word "established" vice "assigned" Stan |
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Well, I just wanted to ensure I wasn't breaking any FAR, so naturally
I looked in the FARs. The departure procedure can take you miles out of your way, so yes, I'll forgo the obstacle protection when I can clearly manoeuvre on a good weather day Stan On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:46:10 GMT, "Bob Gardner" wrote: The regulations are probably the worst place to look for answers to procedural questions. Try reading AIM 5-2-6 in its entirety. That "immediate turn" should be no lower than 400' agl. Second, you are forgoing the obstacle protection afforded by the DP. Not real wise IMHO. Bob Gardner wrote in message .. . I was always under the assumption that if my atc clearance received on the ground was direct to a fix, I was free to forgo the departure procedure and do an immediate turn after takeoff. I note that FAR 91.129, Operations in class D airspace states that: "(g) Departures. No person may operate an aircraft departing from an airport except in compliance with the following: (1) Each pilot must comply with any departure procedures established for that airport by the FAA." So how, on a good weather delay, can one avoid flying the departure procedure? Note the word "established" vice "assigned" Stan |
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