French block airlift of British troops to Basra

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On 17 Sep 2003 04:17:05 -0700, (Michael
Petukhov) wrote:

French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41]


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If the UK public were to boycott French products like the American
People
have, the French People would riot.

Interestingly enough the French usually reserve their riots for their
own government and have a pretty good record of making their
government change it's policy this way.

Shades of the revolution and all that.

Peter

Wasn't France (not USSR/Russia) the first nuclear armed country to have a
military coup? Or was the Algerian revolution before they got nukes?

Is that why they get so upset about the US military stay-with-it? Their
army took casualties and had a failed colonial occupation in an Aram contry
that lead to the army taking over the govt to get out of the colony
business, and the US hasn't?

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Interestingly enough the French usually reserve their riots for
their
own government and have a pretty good record of making their
government change it's policy this way.

I wasn't thinking the anger of the French people would be directed at
the
UK.

Why ever not, it has been for the last thousand years or so.

That could be associated with the English invading France; you know that
whole burning a girl at the stake thing.

Wasn't that more a case of the grand kids fighting over the inheritance?
Remember France took over England before then. 1066 ring a bell? So the
French in England were squabbling with the French in Brittany.

Something about domestic fights are always the worst.
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Interestingly enough the French usually reserve their riots for
their
own government and have a pretty good record of making their
government change it's policy this way.

I wasn't thinking the anger of the French people would be directed
at the
UK.

Why ever not, it has been for the last thousand years or so.

That could be associated with the English invading France; you know that
whole burning a girl at the stake thing.

Wasn't that more a case of the grand kids fighting over the inheritance?

Ahh, to Andrew Jackson's sport hunting of bipeds; so much simpler a time.

Remember France took over England before then. 1066 ring a bell? So the
French in England were squabbling with the French in Brittany.

An army was raised in the highlands at Tarves and that is my name.

Something about domestic fights are always the worst.
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Do they have free cheese?

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Interestingly enough the French usually reserve their riots for their
own government and have a pretty good record of making their
government change it's policy this way.

Shades of the revolution and all that.

Peter

Wasn't France (not USSR/Russia) the first nuclear armed country to have a
military coup? Or was the Algerian revolution before they got nukes?

Well, the first French atomic bomb was detonated in Sahara in 1960, two
years after the June1958 coup that failed pretty quickly anyway as De Gaulle
refused to follow the generals who had initiated it and as there was no
support at all from the public in the metropole.


Is that why they get so upset about the US military stay-with-it? Their
army took casualties and had a failed colonial occupation in an Aram
contry
that lead to the army taking over the govt to get out of the colony
business, and the US hasn't?


I honestly don't see many links between the decolonization war in Algeria
and the current US foreign policy. Now if you're talking about mutual
failures... :-)

Regards,
ArVa

Am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:25:34 +0000 (UTC), schrieb "William Black"
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I've tried that stuff they sell as 'domestic champagne' in the USA,
including the stuff made by Mumm, which chemical plant makes it?


But it has the three essential vitamines D, O and W.
Owe
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21 ist nur die halbe Wahrheit!
www.owejessen.de

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US troops are already grumbling and we still have no exit strategy.

US troops always grumble; part of what makes US troops unique, I
guess.

Hardly.

The old maxim that probably goes back beyond the Romans is "you start to
worry when the troops stop bitching".

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The price of champagne and decent cheese would drop even lower.

French wine is all from California vines and we can't buy French cheese.

And the Californian vines came from where originally?

I've tried that stuff they sell as 'domestic champagne' in the USA,
including the stuff made by Mumm, which chemical plant makes it?

Not being able to buy French cheese is a cruel and unusual punishment...

If you like fine cheese, try tracking down a King Island Double Brie.

The perfect food.

I wasn't thinking the anger of the French people would be directed at the
UK.

Why ever not, it has been for the last thousand years or so.

I've been watching the CBS Video History of WWII. Last night was
Torch, the invasion of North Africa. The U.S. troops landed first
because the Allies believed that the French would be less likely to
fire on them than the British, because of the "hatred" (Walter
Cronkite's word) they bore for the Brits.

To be sure, the lower the rank, the less this attitude prevailed. And
in the end, when the Allies moved east to Tunisia, French colonial
forces joined them.


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

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Berlin for its part would be willing to send German troops to Iraq
should the US properly cede military and political control of that
nation over to the UN.

Not gonna happen, not even in your wildest Wagnerian dreams,

Actually, Schroeder's latest offer is for troops but no money!

To be sure, the troops would be used for training Iraqi police and
military, not for active use.

What's the German army like these days? Is it anything like Holland's,
over-weight, over-aged, and the troops in hair nets?

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

Cub Driver wrote:
I wasn't thinking the anger of the French people would be directed at the
UK.

Why ever not, it has been for the last thousand years or so.


I've been watching the CBS Video History of WWII. Last night was
Torch, the invasion of North Africa. The U.S. troops landed first
because the Allies believed that the French would be less likely to
fire on them than the British, because of the "hatred" (Walter
Cronkite's word) they bore for the Brits.

That's not that surprising since the French had been under RN guns about
two years previously[*] and relations between the UK and the Vichy
government were never good with the French harrassing Gibraltar airspace
and interning the crew of a damaged RN vessel. Probably there are
complaints on the French side.






[*]http://www.angelfire.com/ia/totalwar/MersElKebir.html




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