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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:02:33 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote: In article , "Montblack" wrote: Does anyone do this with their planes - an oil flush, then a change? I don't. I don't even use a filter. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Montblack wrote:
("Denny" wrote) No one I know breaks the connections and drains the cooler at routine oil changes... if the oil is changed before it turns black then the oil cooler will not have black sludge left in it.. The contained oil will be no dirtier than what was drained and is diluted by the fresh oil... Frequent oil changes is the solution... Doing our (vehicle) oil changes, I drain the old oil. I use a "flush filter" that goes on next. I add (less expensive oil) and run the car for 20 minutes - while I clean up from the first batch. On my second oil change, the "flush filter" gets drained and returned to its (labeled) box on the shelf. A fresh filter is used, then I add my good oil and I'm all set. When I do it this way in my cars, the oil stays golden (like new) for 3,000 miles. If I do it the normal way, my drain oil looks like ...drain oil, after 3,000 miles. Does anyone do this with their planes - an oil flush, then a change? For our cars, it adds about $5 to a driveway oil change. I buy a new "flush filter" every year. Montblack-gold Boy, that's a lot of work. I just make sure I change the oil every 3K miles with new filter and my cars always go better than 200K miles. I had a Prelude that went 250K before I sold it and I have a '97 Camry that is ready to turn 200K on my way home today. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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("Ross" wrote)
Boy, that's a lot of work. I just make sure I change the oil every 3K miles with new filter and my cars always go better than 200K miles. 75% of the work is deciding to "change the oil today." Cardboard Oil pans Empty gallon milk jugs Paper towels Oil changing t-shirt Go-Jo hand cleaner Assembling the quarts Move the other car Funnel Wrench It doesn't add much time running the flush batch through. Everything is already set up. Beer Folding chair Radio Left-over pizza Montblack |
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Montblack wrote:
("Ross" wrote) Boy, that's a lot of work. I just make sure I change the oil every 3K miles with new filter and my cars always go better than 200K miles. 75% of the work is deciding to "change the oil today." Cardboard Oil pans Empty gallon milk jugs The best $10 I ever spent was on one of those 12 qt.oil drain pans that you can seal up. I drain the oil, then take the pan around the corner to Acme or the transfer station and dump it into the used oil tank. No pouring into jugs, no disgusting funnels. Easy! I can do both the truck and the Jeep with one used oil dumping trip. |
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Montblack wrote:
("Ross" wrote) Boy, that's a lot of work. I just make sure I change the oil every 3K miles with new filter and my cars always go better than 200K miles. 75% of the work is deciding to "change the oil today." Cardboard Oil pans Empty gallon milk jugs Paper towels Oil changing t-shirt Go-Jo hand cleaner Assembling the quarts Move the other car Funnel Wrench It doesn't add much time running the flush batch through. Everything is already set up. Beer Folding chair Radio Left-over pizza Montblack Mine is even easier. Which "Grease and Go" to I go to today. Other the other hand, I change the oil in the plane each time. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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"Montblack" wrote in message ... ("Ross" wrote) Boy, that's a lot of work. I just make sure I change the oil every 3K miles with new filter and my cars always go better than 200K miles. 75% of the work is deciding to "change the oil today." Cardboard Oil pans Empty gallon milk jugs You carry those milk jugs over to the recycling center, right Montblack? -- Best Regards, Mike http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. |
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("Mike Noel" wrote)
You carry those milk jugs over to the recycling center, right Montblack? Yes, and it's best not to let (whatever) sit in a plastic milk carton for too long. I've had them leak after a few months. I don't know what all I had in one - or maybe it got kicked? All I know is, one day there was a mess on the floor. I store, and transport them, in a (cardboard lined) milk crate - trani fluid, oil, anti-freeze. Each in its own jug. MontGreen |
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Ross wrote:
Which "Grease and Go" to I go to today. Mobil 1 at my local "Grease & Go" is way overpriced. The local quickie lube tore (and bought replacements for $50 each) (4) fender liners in a row on my '96 Nissan King Cab until they figured out that the screws weren't snaps. That truck was so difficult to change the oil I acquiesced. FWIW, my '05 Toyota Tacoma has the oil filter mounted ON TOP of the engine, complete with a little tray that accepts a 20 oz. soda bottle to catch the drips! My '99 Wrangler is relatively easy, as well. I also get to eyeball the belts, hoses, wires, clutch and brake fluid levels (for hints on wear), etc... while I'm there. And I _like_ doing it, with a cold microbrew! G OTOH, I watch our mechanic do the Sundowner. |
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B A R R Y wrote:
Ross wrote: Which "Grease and Go" to I go to today. Mobil 1 at my local "Grease & Go" is way overpriced. The local quickie lube tore (and bought replacements for $50 each) (4) fender liners in a row on my '96 Nissan King Cab until they figured out that the screws weren't snaps. That truck was so difficult to change the oil I acquiesced. FWIW, my '05 Toyota Tacoma has the oil filter mounted ON TOP of the engine, complete with a little tray that accepts a 20 oz. soda bottle to catch the drips! My '99 Wrangler is relatively easy, as well. I also get to eyeball the belts, hoses, wires, clutch and brake fluid levels (for hints on wear), etc... while I'm there. And I _like_ doing it, with a cold microbrew! G OTOH, I watch our mechanic do the Sundowner. When I am at the Grease and Go I am standing at the front of the car watching that I am getting what I am paying for (all the things you mentioned). Toyotas have a odd way of mounting the filter - upside down. One my O-360 it comes straight out the back, but still a mess if you are not careful. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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Ross wrote:
Toyotas have a odd way of mounting the filter - upside down. It's not so odd. Mine is empty when you remove it. Nothing to spill! G One my O-360 it comes straight out the back, but still a mess if you are not careful. Our O-360 has a remote installation, so it's on the firewall. We could easily do the plane ourselves, but we have a good setup with the mechanic. He's a one man operation. He sweeps the snow off the plane when we're not around (for all his regulars), lets us wash and wax the plane in his hangar, wheels it inside when we need a defrost, answers and provides spot inspections for preflight questions, and we use his shop bathroom and fridge. His oil changes are excellent values! ;^) |
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