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Old June 16th 07, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Boomerang
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I'm surely not the Senior Naval Aviator (remember that? "SNA"?) attending
to this News Group although I may be the among the oldest - first carrier
landing on March 17, 1954 - and I wonder, seriously, if the cross-posters
realize what a disservice (read pain-in-the-ass) they are to those of us who
cherish contact with folks of similar backgrounds and interests Further, I
wonder if they realize that their cross-posts, always, provoke an alienation
to whatever the hell their nutty causes might be, and an annoyance with them
personally for the posts. Monitoring is an attractive option but we're way
beyond that.I just hope that each of us "good-guys" can figure out a way to
co-opt, neutralize and maybe, some day, eliminate all their crap from our
personal sand box and keep this site for those of us who have something to
say to one another about a very important element of their own security -
and their right to sound off, unfortunately.


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Old June 17th 07, 01:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Shanghai McCoy[_2_]
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Well put, Boomerang. Damn.. 1954? SNA for sure! I was a mere
back-seat-qual'ed Parachute Rigger (S-3's and A-7's.. I think it gave
the rest of the A/C some misplaced sense of security having a PR along).

)Boomerang wrote:
I'm surely not the Senior Naval Aviator (remember that? "SNA"?) attending
to this News Group although I may be the among the oldest - first carrier
landing on March 17, 1954 - and I wonder, seriously, if the cross-posters
realize what a disservice (read pain-in-the-ass) they are to those of us who
cherish contact with folks of similar backgrounds and interests Further, I
wonder if they realize that their cross-posts, always, provoke an alienation
to whatever the hell their nutty causes might be, and an annoyance with them
personally for the posts. Monitoring is an attractive option but we're way
beyond that.I just hope that each of us "good-guys" can figure out a way to
co-opt, neutralize and maybe, some day, eliminate all their crap from our
personal sand box and keep this site for those of us who have something to
say to one another about a very important element of their own security -
and their right to sound off, unfortunately.


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Old June 17th 07, 02:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Bob McKellar[_2_]
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"Shanghai McCoy" wrote in message
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Well put, Boomerang. Damn.. 1954? SNA for sure! I was a mere
back-seat-qual'ed Parachute Rigger (S-3's and A-7's.. I think it gave the
rest of the A/C some misplaced sense of security having a PR along).

)Boomerang wrote:
I'm surely not the Senior Naval Aviator (remember that? "SNA"?)
attending to this News Group although I may be the among the oldest -
first carrier landing on March 17, 1954 - and I wonder, seriously, if the
cross-posters realize what a disservice (read pain-in-the-ass) they are
to those of us who cherish contact with folks of similar backgrounds and
interests Further, I wonder if they realize that their cross-posts,
always, provoke an alienation to whatever the hell their nutty causes
might be, and an annoyance with them personally for the posts.
Monitoring is an attractive option but we're way beyond that.I just hope
that each of us "good-guys" can figure out a way to co-opt, neutralize
and maybe, some day, eliminate all their crap from our personal sand box
and keep this site for those of us who have something to say to one
another about a very important element of their own security - and their
right to sound off, unfortunately.

As far as "Senior" goes I can claim many conversations with Naval Aviator #
711 (My grandfather).

He is of course no longer around to defend hmself.

He did forgive me for only being a Tin Can Pork Chop. Naming my first born
after him probably helped.

Bob McKellar


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Old June 17th 07, 03:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Shanghai McCoy[_2_]
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Bob McKellar wrote:
"Shanghai McCoy" wrote in message
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Well put, Boomerang. Damn.. 1954? SNA for sure! I was a mere
back-seat-qual'ed Parachute Rigger (S-3's and A-7's.. I think it gave the
rest of the A/C some misplaced sense of security having a PR along).

)Boomerang wrote:
I'm surely not the Senior Naval Aviator (remember that? "SNA"?)
attending to this News Group although I may be the among the oldest -
first carrier landing on March 17, 1954 - and I wonder, seriously, if the
cross-posters realize what a disservice (read pain-in-the-ass) they are
to those of us who cherish contact with folks of similar backgrounds and
interests Further, I wonder if they realize that their cross-posts,
always, provoke an alienation to whatever the hell their nutty causes
might be, and an annoyance with them personally for the posts.
Monitoring is an attractive option but we're way beyond that.I just hope
that each of us "good-guys" can figure out a way to co-opt, neutralize
and maybe, some day, eliminate all their crap from our personal sand box
and keep this site for those of us who have something to say to one
another about a very important element of their own security - and their
right to sound off, unfortunately.

As far as "Senior" goes I can claim many conversations with Naval Aviator #
711 (My grandfather).

He is of course no longer around to defend hmself.

He did forgive me for only being a Tin Can Pork Chop. Naming my first born
after him probably helped.

Bob McKellar


Suck up! Just kiddin'.. we need tin-can sailors just as damn much as we
need aviators. I'm born and raised in Pensacola, still here, so I may
have an overdeveloped appreciation of Naval Aviation (Lord how I miss
Trader Jon's!).. I raise a glass to Naval Aviator #711!

Shanghai
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Old June 18th 07, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
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"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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He did forgive me for only being a Tin Can Pork Chop.


New expression for me... "Tin Can Pork Chop". I understand Tin Can but lost
on the "Pork Chop".


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Old June 18th 07, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Bob McKellar[_2_]
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"Greasy Rider" wrote in message
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"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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He did forgive me for only being a Tin Can Pork Chop.


New expression for me... "Tin Can Pork Chop". I understand Tin Can but
lost on the "Pork Chop".



Line officers wear a star over the rank stripes on dress blues and shoulder
boards on other uniforms.

Staff corps officers (Supply, Medical, Dental, Civil Engineer, etc.) wear
other distinctive insignia.

The Supply Corps insignia is said to resemble a pork chop, hence the
nickname. I suppose it was first used as a friendly insult, but has since
been wholeheartedly adopted by 'Chops everywhere.

Extra info #1: The insignia is oak leaves and three nuts. The Supply Corps
Officer has a spare for EVERYTHING.

Extra info #2: Supply Corps shoulder boards are asymmetrical and have a left
and right side. This would be too complicated for line officers.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=267 for staff corps
insignia

Bob McKellar


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Old June 19th 07, 12:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Greasy Rider[_3_]
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"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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The Supply Corps insignia is said to resemble a pork chop, hence the
nickname. I suppose it was first used as a friendly insult, but has since
been wholeheartedly adopted by 'Chops everywhere.


Thanks for the education.....

Greasy Rider - aka
"Twidget- 2nd class" 1955-59



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Old June 19th 07, 01:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
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Not to be confused with Civil Engineer Corps folks who wear - and are
called - "banana leaves"...


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Old June 20th 07, 09:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
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On Jun 16, 6:35?pm, "Bob McKellar" wrote:

As far as "Senior" goes I can claim many conversations with Naval Aviator #
711 (My grandfather).


Any relationship to Earle Preston McKellar, NA#861 (1897-1964)??

MW

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Old June 21st 07, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
Bob McKellar[_2_]
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"Mike Weeks" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 16, 6:35?pm, "Bob McKellar" wrote:

As far as "Senior" goes I can claim many conversations with Naval Aviator
#
711 (My grandfather).


Any relationship to Earle Preston McKellar, NA#861 (1897-1964)??

MW


No relation that I know of, although I'm sure if you go back far
enough.......

#711 was my mother's father, Charles Robert Rhodes. (I'm Robert Rhodes
McKellar, my oldest son Charles Robert McKellar - lots of recycling.)

I looked up Earl McKellar in my book of the first 2000 NA's. He had a long
career, with a few years of retirement in the middle.

#711 only served a few years for WWI, and was discharged as an Ensign.
That's probably why he was so happy when he saw my lofty Lt.jg stripes!

Bob


 




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