ClearVav vs. LXNav

Regarding native language: I use a LXNav 8080, and my comment is that the instrument itself is good, but the User Manual is deficient, for four reasons: First, the 8080 is a complex instrument with lots of user options 2) the manual is a single document covering all the various different LXNav modules, and its a maze to extract the parts relevant to any one instrument 3) the manual is written in 'odd English' ie odd choices of words and odd phrasing, that makes it hard to understand 4) it's only provided as an electronic document, and it would be a major job for my home printer to print it, which was what I would prefer.

Just a bit of confusion here. LXNav doesn't make the LX9xxx flight computer. That is made by LX Navigation. Formally one company now two and they don't share the same products (nor manuals).

Hi,

LXNAV does make the LX90x0 and LX80x0. LX Navigation makes the Zeus and Era and Colibri products.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 11:32:41 PM UTC-6, SoaringXCellence wrote:
Just a bit of confusion here. LXNav doesn't make the LX9xxx flight computer. That is made by LX Navigation. Formally one company now two and they don't share the same products (nor manuals).

I don't find the LX 8/9000 manual confusing and why on earth print it out? I have it on my laptop, my phone and on my LX9000 SD card - although the latter is a last resort as the 9000 pdf reader is slow.

On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 3:15:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I don't find the LX 8/9000 manual confusing and why on earth print it out? I have it on my laptop, my phone and on my LX9000 SD card - although the latter is a last resort as the 9000 pdf reader is slow.

I find the manual very comprehensive. Over the last 5 years or so I had to ask LXNav 2 questions, the rest was in the manual. I actually find LXNav easy to use, not as easy as ClearNav but I hardly need a manual. Even the most complex functions like configuring the flap position sensor I was able to figure out without any issues. Maybe I have an easier time because I work in IT.

Andrzej

"it's only provided as an electronic document, and it would be a major job for my home printer to print it, which was what I would prefer."

I agree on the LXNav manuals- especially how far out of date they can be. On the S80, firmware version 6.1 was out and the manual was still v5.46. (Recently updated to 6.02) Also, the manual combines the S80 and S100 instruments. The biggest hassle is that you pretty much have to print the entire manual with each update. It would be nice if you could just print the sections that changed instead of the whole thing.

Can't you read it electronically and then only print the pages you want a hard copy of? Should be pretty easy to do that n the "print box", at least in Windows.....

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 4:58:14 PM UTC-8, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Can't you read it electronically and then only print the pages you want a hard copy of? Should be pretty easy to do that n the "print box", at least in Windows.....

Charlie, that sounds reasonable, but look at the Manual and you'll see how difficult that would be.

A typical FAX/Copy store also does printing. You can usually email them a PDF, or bring in a thumb drive with the file on it.

5Z

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:35:22 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 4:58:14 PM UTC-8, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Can't you read it electronically and then only print the pages you want a hard copy of? Should be pretty easy to do that n the "print box", at least in Windows.....

Charlie, that sounds reasonable, but look at the Manual and you'll see how difficult that would be.

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:39:19 PM UTC-8, wrote:
A typical FAX/Copy store also does printing. You can usually email them a PDF, or bring in a thumb drive with the file on it.

5Z

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:35:22 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 4:58:14 PM UTC-8, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Can't you read it electronically and then only print the pages you want a hard copy of? Should be pretty easy to do that n the "print box", at least in Windows.....

Charlie, that sounds reasonable, but look at the Manual and you'll see how difficult that would be.

The problem, as I tried to say, is that LXNav attempts to cover all the products that they sell, the 8000, 8080, 9000, 9070, all their varios, all their interconnections, with one big manual. Probably all the information is in there, but its a true maze, to find and extract the relevant data for any one instrument. The whole manual would need to printed, and even then it would be difficult to use. My solution was to make my own manual for my particular unit.