homebuilt +/- 1350 lbs gross?

jan olieslagers wrote:
jan olieslagers schreef:
After due examination of mission, the Europa (see
www.europa-aircraft.com) is my ideal plane.
Following inspection of budget, it seems too expensive;
even if the sterling/euro rate became more favourable.

What other homebuilts are around with a grossweight of
1300-1400 pounds, and accepting a 100-120 hp engine?
Both kits and plans-built can be considered.
European roots an advantage.

Thanks to all who replied, I learned quite a few things.
And I must apologise for not describing the mission:
this must be a tourer, with good range above all
and a fair cruising speed a close second. Third come
fuel economy and engine reliability.
That said the Europa seems unbeatable, achieving
200 mph cruise on a 100HP Rotax 912S.

-) the Avion Lightning is one I never heard of.
But even with 120 HP it only manages 150-170 mph cruise?
-) the Jodel's are in another class, they were never meant for more
than +/- 60 HP and perform accordingly
-) The Emeraude is one I should have thought of,
and will be looking into; like the Menestrel I didn't know yet.
Wood construction certainly has an appeal for me.
-) Pegazair and Rebel are STOL/bush planes,
don't fit the mission.

All this being said, can we discuss engine choice?
In the 80-100 HP range, Lycosaurs seem unfit given
their high fuel burn. Rotax seems the obvious choice,
they're widely available and not excessively expensive.
A diesel would be nice for its low fuel burn
and good performance at altitude, but those designed
for aviation (Wilksch, SMA, Delta Hawk, Dair...)
are rare and expensive, while car conversions are
heavy and too complex for my limited mechanical ability.
Best compromise seems a Rotax 914, its turbo should much
improve altitude performance, but don't see many
of these around either...?

Thanks again for thinking along!
KA


www.flycorvair.com

On Nov 19, 11:04*am, jan olieslagers
wrote:
jan olieslagers schreef:

(snip)
this must be a tourer, with good range above all
and a fair cruising speed a close second. Third come
fuel economy and engine reliability.
That said the Europa seems unbeatable, achieving
200 mph cruise on a 100HP Rotax 912S.
(snip)
-) The Emeraude is one I should have thought of,
and will be looking into; . . .

Jan ..........

If you're looking for Europa-type speed, the Emeraude loses. Mine,
with an O-320, cruises at 75% at 120 knots @ 8 gph.

Rich S.

jan olieslagers wrote:

After due examination of mission, the Europa (see
www.europa-aircraft.com) is my ideal plane.
Following inspection of budget, it seems too expensive;
even if the sterling/euro rate became more favourable.

What other homebuilts are around with a grossweight of
1300-1400 pounds, and accepting a 100-120 hp engine?
Both kits and plans-built can be considered.
European roots an advantage.



hi jan,

you might take a look at the DAC RangeR, a dutch homebuilt project using an
automobile diesel engine adapted for aviation use. the airplane was shown
at an early stage at the friedrichshafen Aero exhibition some years ago. i
don't know the current status of the project; check their internet site:

http://www.dac-ranger.nl


cheers,
uli

Uli schreef:
hi jan,

you might take a look at the DAC RangeR, a dutch homebuilt project using an
automobile diesel engine adapted for aviation use. the airplane was shown
at an early stage at the friedrichshafen Aero exhibition some years ago. i
don't know the current status of the project; check their internet site:

http://www.dac-ranger.nl

Funny, that. I stumbled across this very plane this very morning
when looking up the CZAW SportCruiser I saw at a nearby aerodrome...
(but which turns out to be offered as a factory-built only).
I might well ask for the current status by mail.
As said before, I tend to mistrust diesel car conversions
because of their heavy weight; but questions are for free, aren't they?

Thanks for thinking along!