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TFRs & Rescue Problems
http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/ind...09.html#075758 There is a hospital "under siege" by armed gangs and the company which runs the hospital has apparently tried to charter helicopters to go take people off the roof but has been unable to get clearance from the FAA to enter the TFR area. Personally, I think I'd tell them "Here's what I'm doing, call traffic for me, and you can violate me when I'm done saving people." I'm all for maintaining control but when you have a desperate situation on your hands, I'm willing to place my trust in individuals to do their best. Americans are very good at self-organizing. -cwk. |
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wrote in message ups.com... http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/ind...09.html#075758 There is a hospital "under siege" by armed gangs and the company which runs the hospital has apparently tried to charter helicopters to go take people off the roof but has been unable to get clearance from the FAA to enter the TFR area. Personally, I think I'd tell them "Here's what I'm doing, call traffic for me, and you can violate me when I'm done saving people." I'm all for maintaining control but when you have a desperate situation on your hands, I'm willing to place my trust in individuals to do their best. Americans are very good at self-organizing. -cwk. Purely hearsay. Has this been confirmed anywhere else? She's at Florida State University, how does she know these things? |
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Personally, I think I'd tell them "Here's what I'm doing, call traffic
for me, and you can violate me when I'm done saving people." I thought all of the radio outlets and radar was out for a large portion of the area. Who's going to call traffic for ya? Also, I've heard all flights in/out are daylight hours only at this point, since no electricity = no lights on at the airports at night. -- Guy |
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wrote in message ups.com... http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/ind...09.html#075758 There is a hospital "under siege" by armed gangs and the company which runs the hospital has apparently tried to charter helicopters to go take people off the roof but has been unable to get clearance from the FAA to enter the TFR area. ----------------------------------reply----------------------------------------------- Hello from the Gulf region, I've been flying since before landfall and every day since the storm's passage. Yesterday, the medivac choppers were with us at Jack Edwards (JKA) in Gulf Shores. The pilot told me that they tried to land at one of the hospitals but the landing pad was crowded with people and there had been reports of gun fire. Getting a clearance during the first couple of days meant calling the Marine Air Ops on the west coast and giving them your name, call sign, agency, and time of flight. After day 2, the FAA took over the task of assigning codes and the process was the same. They would give you a squawk code, and frequency and controller call sign. A P-3 was assigned to each State along the coast and each State has a particular controller. Our's here in Alabama was Omaha 45 CS and the system worked pretty well. Several times during the missions, we'd have to change frequencies in order to accomodate communication problems onboard the P-3. When the controller, who by the way only provided advisories, was unreachable, we operated the way we normally do down here....we talked to each other, gave position reports, and followed standard procedures. Fuel for the aircraft has not been an issue, but for the automobiles another story. I sat in line for 2.5 last night only to have the store run out of gas before I could get up to the pump. Today, I hit the line just right and was re-fueled in about 20 minutes. Fly safe, Stephen Alabama Wing, CAP |
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Personally, I think I'd tell them "Here's what I'm doing, call traffic
for me, and you can violate me when I'm done saving people." I thought all of the radio outlets and radar was out for a large portion of the area. Who's going to call traffic for ya? Also, I've heard all flights in/out are daylight hours only at this point, since no electricity = no lights on at the airports at night. Radar service is out for a large area. Some friends of mine are readying their planes to go help out. The flight service briefer said there is an AWACS providing radar service. |
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You've never landed at an airport at night without lights?
Jim "Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message oups.com... Also, I've heard all flights in/out are daylight hours only at this point, since no electricity = no lights on at the airports at night. |
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Nope, although I know it can be done. I suspect the lack of any
precision approaches into the airports would hamper this effort as well, considering there is _no_ light at all in the vicinity. -- Guy |
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RST Engineering wrote:
You've never landed at an airport at night without lights? Yep! 1945 Champ back in 1985. I knew the end of the runway was abeam the firehouse. All I had to do was stay above 50 feet to clear the wires next to the road. Once past the road, cut the throttle and ease the stick back. It was easy to discern the asphalt from the grass in the ambient light. |
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RST Engineering wrote:
You've never landed at an airport at night without lights? Da plane or the airport? I kneaux somebody dats done both... |
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Fuel for the aircraft has not been an issue, but for the automobiles
another story. Ever since Katrina hit, Angel Flight South Central (and South East) have been working to get the injured out and trained personnel and supplies into the area. As a medical relief flight, we've not had any TFR problems - and now we are just staging a standing line of planes. The Red Cross or National Guard brings them to us (mostly from hospitals) and we have the next plane in line in the air in 15 minutes. Fuel has been a problem - all the underground AVGAS supplies are flooded (or empty) and so we are having to limit to planes that can fly in and back unrefueled. That should get better soon. There are supplies of AVGAS further north that are intact, but little coordination as to which airports can sell to our pilots vs. which are without power or gas. It's getting there, slowly... but once the big crunch is over there is going to be a continuing mess to reunite everyone. We are flying out lots of babies from hospitals without natal care units working. To handle as many as possible, that means the parents get left behind. jmk |
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