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Old February 25th 16, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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This last week we had a freakish Winter Storm come through Utah while I was out of the country. Winds in excess of 70MPH hit the airport and my SGS-233A pulled it's tiedowns out of the ground and it ended up in a fence, totalled. I have been working with my young son preparing him to solo on his 14th birthday which is the beginning of April. I'm desperately trying to find a replacement, anyone know of any good trainers for sale. Another 233A would be great, an ASK21 would be even better. If you know of anything?

Thanks!
Brian

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Old February 25th 16, 01:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Sorry to hear about your loss. And I can't help you with your hunt for a trainer but I would like to know more about your tie downs. What type were they?

Boggs
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Old February 25th 16, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:01:22 AM UTC-7, Waveguru wrote:
Sorry to hear about your loss. And I can't help you with your hunt for a trainer but I would like to know more about your tie downs. What type were they?

Boggs


There were 3 3' lengths of rebar driven and angled into the ground at each tiedown point.
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Old February 25th 16, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 1:49:47 PM UTC-5, Brian Rowser wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:01:22 AM UTC-7, Waveguru wrote:
...I would like to know more about your tie downs. What type were they?

There were 3 3' lengths of rebar driven and angled into the ground
at each tiedown point.


Was the tail on a raised stand to keep the AOA zero?
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Old February 25th 16, 07:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I've seen several gliders totaled using this type of tie down over the years. It only works most of the time. I've never seen rebar driven into a hole then filled with concrete fail tho...

Boggs

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Old February 25th 16, 07:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Concrete only in a hole is also not adequate...

Boggs
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Old February 25th 16, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Tampa Bay Soaring Sociaty in Zephyrhills FL has a SGS 2-32 for sale.
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Old February 26th 16, 12:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Brian,
So sorry to hear about losing your 2-33. Would you ever consider joining the Utah Soaring Association with your son? We have 4 Grob's and might be able to help keep the training going. Best of luck whatever you do.

Bruno - B4
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Old February 26th 16, 03:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Anytime the predicted wind is over 25 knots it is essential that both wing tie-downs be used in conjunction with sturdy wing stands on both wing tips! A witness to a ASK-21 that went over on its back in a 90 knot blow, told me the ship was rocking left and right with the main wheel rising off the ground as the wings came level. As one wing rose, the tension on the tie-down cable, forced the other wing down. Sturdy tie-downs keeping the wings firmly on both wing stands will not allow this rocking oscillations. A sturdy wing stand can be made from a 5' step-ladder, legs cut to required height, with a foam pad glued to the top. A trailing edge glove placed over in an area without controls in conjunction with a 2" web strap from the T/E glove, over the leading edge down to a secure tie-down, used with 4-legged wing stands is the best way to secure your ship (IMHO)
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Old February 26th 16, 04:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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What JJ didn't say is that he makes some of the best tie-downs around.

http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/misc....Down_Equipment

Cumulus carries them.

Sorry I can't help you with the training Brian.
 




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