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NOT IGNORANCE BUT REALITY - REAL AUTOPILOT DISCONNECT WARNING ALARM4min 58secs on Video
So you admit your ignorance on the matter of autopilot disconnect. In other words, your wonderful simulator is inadequate. Sorry 'bout that little boy. I will post this again as it's NOT ignorance, it is REALITY. Watch this clip - A REAL CLIP ON A REAL BOEING 747-400 NOT A GAME 4min 58 seconds the autopilot is disconnected by the pilot via a button on his control column. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl-TW...eature=channel This group is pathetic, I was going to try give you guys a chance but you lot argue against ANYTHING depending on the source of the comment. I'm sure most of you have experience in general aviation but are there any real commercial pilots on here that will back your arguements, not against the good or bad aspects of a sim but back your comments about what you lot believe happens on a real commercial flightdeck Ibby |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
Oh brother, Mx Jr.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - God man grow up. What do you think the point of an autopilot, autolanding and autothrottle systems are for?? To make control of an airliner easier for the flightcrew whether it an Airbus, Boeing and MD and even a Cirus, Pipers etc. As a Cessna 152 has NONE of these systems they have to be flown by hand and landed by hand. An airliner does NOT HAVE to be hand flown - in REAL LIFE and RARELY is. Read some books, watch some videos and wise up you lot. I was DEFENDING the skill required in hand flying a light aircraft but it just seems to literally 'fly' over a lot of heads here in your blindness for what you are reading. There is nothing wrong with my previous post. I know what is required in a real aircraft to control airspeed, attitude, descents and climbs because I HAVE bloody flown a REAL aircraft but in the UK you are not permitted to land or take off on your first lesson which I was commenting on. Ibby |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
*It doesn't have
to be done manually, you do NOT have to control the yoke or touch the thrust levers until on the ground. *MOST real life landings are done with this method ??? Most? Certainly not. -- Duncan Duncan So do YOU believe a pilot of a 737 or 747 hand flys an entire STAR approach, captures the ILS localiser and glideslope, whilst keeping critical control of his altitude and reducing airspeed and deployment of flaps ALL by hand. Commercial pilots use the autopilot's approach system at the very LEAST to get established on the localiser and control the descent on the glideslope whilst they manually reduce the desired speed (still under the autopilots autohrottle control) on the Mode Control Panel Watch this video of the final stages of a 747-400 approach and landing into San Fransisco. This is a typical landing. The pilot disconnected the autopilot at a few hundred feet but this aircraft and runway 28L could have enabled him to perform a full autoland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ShBOtPiuNM As you can clearly witness the majority of the input required by the pilot to maintain flight, approach and landing is via the MCP on the glareshield Ibby Ibby |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
Clark writes:
And a Russian Airbus crashed after an undetected autopilot disconnect. Now do you have a clue? Airbus? Well, all bets are off if you're flying a Scarebus. You must be talking about Flight 593, with kids in the cockpit. Substantial movement of the control column by one of the captain's kids visiting the cockpit triggered a cancellation of roll-mode AP control, which in the Scarebus is not audibly annunciated. It didn't take long for the pilots to notice something was amiss, but by the time they figured it all out and got the airplane under control, they were too low, and they crashed. The mere fact that the captain let his kids touch the controls tends to imply that the crew was incompetent to begin with. Next, look up the Century series of autopilots. I'll guarantee you that they don't give any audible alert when they disconnect. Don't even try to argue this one since I have one in my aircraft. Are you flying a 747 or an A380? |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
"Ibby" wrote in message news:05c5bdae-edf3-4329-86d5- No your not. You are hear to create noise and confusion, just like your brother MX. |
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NOT IGNORANCE BUT REALITY - REAL AUTOPILOT DISCONNECT WARNING ALARM 4min 58secs on Video
"Ibby" wrote in message news:aa4e0851-e0d5-4fb1-98dd- Maybe you should take this back to the sim or game group. Perhaps it would actually interest them. |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
"Ibby" wrote in message news:d1a8081d-1417-4547-927c- You are really stuck on this warning bell thing. Have you had your hearing tested lately? |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Clark writes: And a Russian Airbus crashed after an undetected autopilot disconnect. Now do you have a clue? Airbus? Well, all bets are off if you're flying a Scarebus. You must be talking about Flight 593, with kids in the cockpit. Substantial movement of the control column by one of the captain's kids visiting the cockpit triggered a cancellation of roll-mode AP control, which in the Scarebus is not audibly annunciated. It didn't take long for the pilots to notice something was amiss, but by the time they figured it all out and got the airplane under control, they were too low, and they crashed. The mere fact that the captain let his kids touch the controls tends to imply that the crew was incompetent to begin with. Next, look up the Century series of autopilots. I'll guarantee you that they don't give any audible alert when they disconnect. Don't even try to argue this one since I have one in my aircraft. Are you flying a 747 or an A380? You are both flying a desk, dumb ass. |
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*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********
"Ibby" wrote in message ... You grow up dumb ass. Just exactly like MX, in your ignorance and inexperience you missed the whole point. |
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