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actually.. there are three groups... and you are always in one of the
three... hopefully you always remain in group 1 and never transition to group 2 which holds dual citizenship with group 3 1) There are those that will.. 2) There are those that have.. 3) There are those that will again.. BT (and doing that Gumps check to hopefully remain in Group1) "gatt" wrote in message ... "...those who will forgot to lower their landing gear." Was told this by a guest instructor. I'm not at all comfortable with this. Thoughts? -c |
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I've seen gear-ups performed by retractable newbies and 10,000+ hr. pilots. A combination of distractions at the right time can sink the best of them. When I based at PHX, I once watched a commercial 737 come down short final with the gear up. They were coming back around for the second time after going around for traffic on the runway. While on the go around, they reported a problem with an engine indicator. It distracted them enough that they missed putting the gear down. Fortunately, the tower caught it and let them know and they went around again. John Deakin wrote a good article on this subject on Avweb, about almost landing a 747 gear up. http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/188536-1.html I also read an investigation report about someone almost doing it in a Learjet on a check flight. They went around when they felt the VHF antenna drag on the runway! http://www.atsb.gov.au/aviation/occu...ail.cfm?ID=220 The PIC (the instructor) is listed as having 17000 hours, 3000 on type. |
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And then there is the goofy light problem. If you get two greens, now
what do you do? I was told, if possible, pull one of the lights that is working and put it in the one that isn't lit and see if it lights (this is for locations where no one is on the ground to tell you if you have three down -- but how would they know it isn't locked?). I had that happen to me in an Arrow, and I was single pilot.. no pax.. and the auto pilot was kaput.. I could not get my phat phingers around the green lens cover to pop the bulb and move it... so it was back to the FBO.. a pass down the runway.. "well.. it looks ok.."... and the most ginger of landings ever made... almost testing the gear while still maintaining flying speed incase it crumped.. (right main light was out)... but that's what 5500ft runways are for it was a light bulb problem... and no "press to test" for the bulbs.. BT |
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I've made hundredes of gear up landings...all of them intentional.
Of course they were on water in an amphibian!!!!ggg Nearly got suckered into a gear up landing with a Twin Beech. Short final behind a Cessna. Just as I was about to declare a "go around" the Cessna landed short and taxied off the runway. I was headed for the far end of a 6000' runway and was cleared to land. I had already cycled the gear UP and flaps to take-off and had added power when the tower cleared me to land. I immediately reduced power and only my usual "short final" check of gear, props, mixture saved us from getting that sinking feeling and the terrible noise that follows. I still followed through with an orderly go-around and thought about how the events could have caused a gear up landing. Simply reinforced my routine last check on short final to insure gear down and welded or three green. Ol S&B |
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"gatt" wrote: "...those who will forgot to lower their landing gear." Was told this by a guest instructor. I'm not at all comfortable with this. Thoughts? -c That's what they used to say about ground looping a tail dragger. Your instructor's point seems far less apt. -- Ron Parsons |
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Peter R. wrote:
gatt ) wrote: "...those who will forgot to lower their landing gear." Was told this by a guest instructor. I'm not at all comfortable with this. Thoughts? I first started my flight training back in 1989 at Waterbury/Oxford, Connecticut. Based at that airport was an aircraft whose owner landed not once, but twice without extending his gear. It wasn't a P-51, was it? |
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pickle ) wrote:
Peter R. wrote: gatt ) wrote: "...those who will forgot to lower their landing gear." Was told this by a guest instructor. I'm not at all comfortable with this. Thoughts? I first started my flight training back in 1989 at Waterbury/Oxford, Connecticut. Based at that airport was an aircraft whose owner landed not once, but twice without extending his gear. It wasn't a P-51, was it? No, it was a retractable Cessna single engine, most likely a 210. -- Peter |
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