767 at LAX did a go-around today!

The mark of a good pilot(s). The passengers might expect every approach to
terminate in a landing, but no pilot should have that expectation.

Bob Gardner

"Yossarian" wrote in message
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I was listening to the LAX tower (south runways) on my handheld today at
about 3:40pm and was surprised to hear American 297 heavy call "going
around" while on short final. I followed along as the pilot reported a
slats problem. Tower headed him to LAX VORTAC then outbound 235 at 2000'.
Two SoCal approach controllers took him in turn, asking if he needed
assistance but apparently they worked everything out and landed safely 10
minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a
heavy
jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out!

In a previous article, "Yossarian" said:
minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a heavy
jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out!

I've been on a heavy that did a go-around. The pilot said that another
plane blundered onto the runway.


--
Paul Tomblin , not speaking for anybody
Once we've got the bugs ironed out, we'll be running on flat bugs

Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, "Yossarian" said:

minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a heavy
jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out!


I've been on a heavy that did a go-around. The pilot said that another
plane blundered onto the runway.

The same here, with the same announcement on the intercom.
However, since I'm always observing the approaches, I noticed shortly before
the pilot did the go-around that he was way too high. From my window seat,
I couldn't see if there was another plane on the runway, but I doubt it.

-Joe

Joachim Feise wrote in message ...
Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, "Yossarian" said:

minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a heavy
jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out!

On a 737 making a bad approach to the "alternate" MSP runway one night
- high, fast, too-tight base-to final turn ... I was *real* glad he
didn't try to salvage it. No announcement over the interconm, though.

Somewhat related, several years ago I watched a United 737 land at
SLC, taxi back, and take off again. Wrong airport? Weird to see it.

"Corrie" wrote in message
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Joachim Feise wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, "Yossarian" said:

minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a
heavy
jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out!

On a 737 making a bad approach to the "alternate" MSP runway one night
- high, fast, too-tight base-to final turn ... I was *real* glad he
didn't try to salvage it. No announcement over the interconm, though.

Somewhat related, several years ago I watched a United 737 land at
SLC, taxi back, and take off again. Wrong airport? Weird to see it.

Along the same lines, a few years back I was on an AmericaWest flight into
Long Beach (LGB). I couldn't see the ground from my window, but when I did
we were almost at touch down...I thought.

When we touched, the pilot hit the brakes hard and didn't even deploy the
reversers. Almost immediately, he made a hard left turn onto the taxiway.
Being on the right hand side, I looked out and saw...the THRESHOLD LIGHTS
for the opposite end of the runway just outside my window. As near as I can
recall, he made the last taxiway for turning off the runway.

Tom
--
"Transported to a surreal landscape, a young
girl kills the first woman she meets and then
teams up with three complete strangers to kill again."
--Marin County newspaper's TV listing for "The Wizard of Oz"

When I was flying out of Fort Bliss, it was not uncommon to have heavy's
shot approaches to Biggs Army Airfield only to go around and then land at El
Paso. The approach ends of both runways are only a mile apart. I do no of
one Delta flight that landed and had to turn around and take off again. I
also know of at least 4 C-130's that have landed at El Paso only to have to
take off again to come to Biggs. The problem here? Two differnet towers.

Fred


"Corrie" wrote in message
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Joachim Feise wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, "Yossarian" said:

minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a
heavy
jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out!

On a 737 making a bad approach to the "alternate" MSP runway one night
- high, fast, too-tight base-to final turn ... I was *real* glad he
didn't try to salvage it. No announcement over the interconm, though.

Somewhat related, several years ago I watched a United 737 land at
SLC, taxi back, and take off again. Wrong airport? Weird to see it.

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message news:bi17s3!

... The pilot said that another
plane blundered onto the runway.


That has been known to happen from time to time, and was probably the case.
But, the old "...other plane on the runway..." story has also been used to
cover a few bad approaches over the years. :-)

JG

Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land once
without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were for
that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind
you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that another
plane had come out on the runway.

Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that
ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case. Why
lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it.

Come on, that's easy. Most people will be freaked out enough that they
aren't landing on the first try, without having to believe it's a problem
with their own plane.

"Jeff Franks" wrote in message
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Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land once
without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were
for
that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind
you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that
another
plane had come out on the runway.

Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that
ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case.
Why
lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it.

Bull. Don't lie to me. Even if I know nothing about whats going on.
Explain it to me in a way that I'll understand that "hey this isn't a big
deal, we'll just land on a longer runway while going a little faster than
normal". I'd rather see that than to be told that the whole friggen system
is at fault and some "small plane" (that was the term they used) had just
screwed up. Not for me.


"Yossarian" wrote in message
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Come on, that's easy. Most people will be freaked out enough that they
aren't landing on the first try, without having to believe it's a problem
with their own plane.

"Jeff Franks" wrote in message
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Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land
once
without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were
for
that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind
you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that
another
plane had come out on the runway.

Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression
that
ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case.
Why
lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it.