Meigs now enjoyed by all!

What does this have to do with anything? Humphrey's is a *PRIVATE*
(*NOT* funded by public money. *NOT* on public property. Isn't that
what this is about?) concert venue that seats 1350 people. Tickets for
shows are $45+. If you want dinner, add $52 per ticket. If you want
to park near the venue, add $6. But it's moot. That property has a
restaurant and hotel as well, which are the main attractions.

Doug Semler wrote:
What does this have to do with anything? Humphrey's is a *PRIVATE*
(*NOT* funded by public money. *NOT* on public property. Isn't that
what this is about?) concert venue that seats 1350 people. Tickets for
shows are $45+. If you want dinner, add $52 per ticket. If you want
to park near the venue, add $6. But it's moot. That property has a
restaurant and hotel as well, which are the main attractions.

IIRC, SI was built by the SD port district, using harbor dredgings.
I recall seeing signs posted by the port district in the park.

JG

The lease expired on NI and its owned by the taxpayers of the PARK
District.
Concert revenues are being used to develop the park.

The executives of Charter One Bank support this with their sponsorship.

"Resting between the horizon of Lake Michigan and the magnificent
Chicago Skyline, Charter One Pavilion is located in the heart of
Chicago's Museum Campus. The stunning surroundings make this a perfect
place to spend a summer night, while
enjoying live music from a variety of performers. Events range from
concerts to family matinee events making Charter One Pavilion a great
new destination for everyone"

History moves on: buggy whips, US manufacturing jobs, Meigs....--JG

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wrote:

The lease expired on NI and its owned by the taxpayers of the PARK
District.
Concert revenues are being used to develop the park.

The executives of Charter One Bank support this with their sponsorship.

"Resting between the horizon of Lake Michigan and the magnificent
Chicago Skyline, Charter One Pavilion is located in the heart of
Chicago's Museum Campus. The stunning surroundings make this a perfect
place to spend a summer night, while
enjoying live music from a variety of performers. Events range from
concerts to family matinee events making Charter One Pavilion a great
new destination for everyone"

History moves on: buggy whips, US manufacturing jobs, Meigs....--JG


Then that is a good reason to boycott Charter One Bank!

As everyone knows, the Daley Machine controls the Park District (and
everything else in Chicago), so the "lease" was really with the city,
not the puppet Park Disrtict.

You STILL haven't addressed the question of "Why Northerly Island, when
Chicago has so many other, better parks?"

ORVAL FAIRAIRN wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

The lease expired on NI and its owned by the taxpayers of the PARK
District.
Concert revenues are being used to develop the park.

The executives of Charter One Bank support this with their sponsorship.

"Resting between the horizon of Lake Michigan and the magnificent
Chicago Skyline, Charter One Pavilion is located in the heart of
Chicago's Museum Campus. The stunning surroundings make this a perfect
place to spend a summer night, while
enjoying live music from a variety of performers. Events range from
concerts to family matinee events making Charter One Pavilion a great
new destination for everyone"

History moves on: buggy whips, US manufacturing jobs, Meigs....--JG


Then that is a good reason to boycott Charter One Bank!

As everyone knows, the Daley Machine controls the Park District (and
everything else in Chicago), so the "lease" was really with the city,
not the puppet Park Disrtict.

You STILL haven't addressed the question of "Why Northerly Island, when
Chicago has so many other, better parks?"

Simply can't justify fencing off 78 acres for 50 aircraft users per
day. At $10 million/acre
market rate, the Walmart heirs could easily afford to make an
offer--$780 miillion and its
yours.

JG

In article .com,
wet the bed and puked:



You STILL haven't addressed the question of "Why Northerly Island, when
Chicago has so many other, better parks?"

Simply can't justify fencing off 78 acres for 50 aircraft users per
day. At $10 million/acre
market rate, the Walmart heirs could easily afford to make an
offer--$780 miillion and its
yours.


OH? And just how much does a park cost to maintain and run?

BTW, if Meigs had been run like a proper airport, rather than being
starved and harassed to death, it would have been a jewel on the
Lakefront. Daley and his crowd simply didn't want any kind of airport
there -- end of discussion.

Granted, the property is public, leased to a private enterprise.
Actually, SI was mainly "built up" (it was already a natural shoal) by
the dredging ops of the Navy during WWII (to allow SD Bay to take in
carriers. The 1950's saw expansion of this dredging to bring the
island 7 ft above mean high tide.

But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? The
original thread was about how "Meigs now enjoyed by all." You
parallelled the gov't 'rezoning' Meigs as a concert venue with SI. SI
is not a really good parallel...The land is leased by the port
authority to various hotels, eateries, and private marinas. What makes
you think that (aside from rent and use taxes) that San Diego sees any
money from what happens at a concert venue? What the leasees do with
the land is the lesee's business (subject to the lease
restrictions/zoning/etc, of course). The only monies that the Port
district of San Diego receives from the activities on the island a
Lease (OK, I admit, there's probably some good money on prime
property made here. However, with the City Attorney looking into the
terms of the more than 600 leases, I would not be surprised if there
weren't some bad dealings here....)
Sales Tax revenues (IIRC 7.25% in city of SD)
TOT revenues (10.5% in city of SD) (This is probably why there are
mostly hotels on the island)
I don't know if there is any tax on moorings in the various marinas.

San Diego does not see one penny (aside from sales tax and possibly
permit fees...which actually could be waived as one of the terms of the
lease!) of revenue from the concerts in a private venue like Humprhy's.
That'd be like saying that the City of LA started realizing money from
the concerts put on at the House of Blues.

Doug Semler wrote:
Granted, the property is public, leased to a private enterprise.
Actually, SI was mainly "built up" (it was already a natural shoal) by
the dredging ops of the Navy during WWII (to allow SD Bay to take in
carriers. The 1950's saw expansion of this dredging to bring the
island 7 ft above mean high tide.

But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? The
original thread was about how "Meigs now enjoyed by all." You
parallelled the gov't 'rezoning' Meigs as a concert venue with SI. SI
is not a really good parallel...The land is leased by the port
authority to various hotels, eateries, and private marinas.

SI and Meigs are similiar: both are landfills by government agencies,
and
both are near urban centers. I expressed the opinion that SI would
make a good model for Northerly Island development.


San Diego does not see one penny (aside from sales tax and possibly
permit fees...which actually could be waived as one of the terms of the
lease!) of revenue from the concerts in a private venue like Humprhy's.
That'd be like saying that the City of LA started realizing money from
the concerts put on at the House of Blues.

I would expect property tax collection on the lesee's private
buildings.

Also, the Greek Theatre and Hollywood Bowl are gov. owned, LA city or
county.

JG