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Old October 18th 05, 03:38 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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As you know, when first being vectored for the ILS, most times the
glideslope will be pegged.


What are you using for guidance when you're being vectored for the ILS?


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Old October 18th 05, 05:09 AM
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Trust in some anonymous voice on the other end of the radio. Sprinkled
with a little situational awareness hopefully.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Peter R." wrote in message
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As you know, when first being vectored for the ILS, most times the
glideslope will be pegged.



What are you using for guidance when you're being vectored for the ILS?


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Old October 18th 05, 01:43 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Peter R." wrote in message
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As you know, when first being vectored for the ILS, most times the
glideslope will be pegged.


What are you using for guidance when you're being vectored for the ILS?


The method of guidance was not a stated criterion in this thread.

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Old October 19th 05, 03:17 AM
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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The method of guidance was not a stated criterion in this thread.


Did it have to be? Full deflection of the localizer or glideslope is rather
meaningless when neither is being used for guidance.


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Old October 19th 05, 10:14 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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As you know, when first being vectored for the ILS, most times the
glideslope will be pegged.


What are you using for guidance when you're being vectored for the ILS?


Nothing, you are on a vector. You have to trust the controller that he (or
she) knows what he's doing and doesn't forget about you. It would be wise to
be situationally aware by using GPS or VOR radials (or other means) to tell
if you are likely to run into rocks.


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Old October 20th 05, 04:55 AM
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"S Narayan" wrote in message
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As you know, when first being vectored for the ILS, most times the
glideslope will be pegged.


What are you using for guidance when you're being vectored for the ILS?


Nothing, you are on a vector. You have to trust the controller that he (or
she) knows what he's doing and doesn't forget about you. It would be wise
to be situationally aware by using GPS or VOR radials (or other means) to
tell if you are likely to run into rocks.


Correct. You are not yet using the glideslope or localizer for guidance so
a full deflection of either is meaningless.


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Old October 20th 05, 10:00 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Correct. You are not yet using the glideslope or localizer for guidance so
a full deflection of either is meaningless.


Also, a lot of the high end stuff won't even try to resolve deflections beyond a
certain angle, so the needles are centered with off flags even though there's a
LOC ident.


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Old October 20th 05, 10:02 AM
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S Narayan wrote:

Nothing, you are on a vector. You have to trust the controller that he (or
she) knows what he's doing and doesn't forget about you. It would be wise to
be situationally aware by using GPS or VOR radials (or other means) to tell
if you are likely to run into rocks.


TCAS, or even a Garmin 296, removes a lot of concern about rocks during
vectors. A moving map of the MVA would even be better and is being evaluated by
some high-end avionics vendors.

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Old October 20th 05, 11:00 AM
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:02:21 -0700, wrote:


TCAS, or even a Garmin 296, removes a lot of concern about rocks during
vectors.


Rocks have transponders? Cool!
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Old October 20th 05, 01:01 PM
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Peter Clark wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:02:21 -0700, wrote:


TCAS, or even a Garmin 296, removes a lot of concern about rocks during
vectors.



Rocks have transponders? Cool!


Only the high-end rocks.
 




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