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ATP wants a single engine add on
Sylvain wrote:
Emily wrote: I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his commercial but didn't for some reason. one pretty good reason not to surrender a certificate when you upgrade it, is if said certificate has a rating which you do not want to give up and which is not covered by the new certificate. Yes, but he had a commercial multi limited to centerline thrust and got an unrestricted ATP multi. That doesn't make any sense. Why keep a centerline thrust restriction? |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
Emily wrote: Jim Macklin wrote: He's opted out (or he's lying about being a pilot, but I've seen him walk off a commercial jet in uniform and with ID, so I'm guessing he's opted out). I've also run into situations where the pilot has a very unfortunate first name. I had a student once who's first name turned out to be Sherly, he went by "John". However, I believe (I need to double check) that you'll need to verify his passport before training per TSA. -Robert |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
61.31 plus 61.39
c) A person is not required to comply with the provisions of paragraph (a)(6) of this section if that person: (1) Holds a foreign-pilot license issued by a contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation that authorizes at least the pilot privileges of the airman certificate sought; (2) Is applying for a type rating only, or a class rating with an associated type rating; or (3) Is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate or an additional rating to an airline transport pilot certificate in an aircraft that does not require an aircraft type rating practical test. (d) If all increments of the practical test for a certificate or rating are not completed on one date, all remaining increments of the test must be satisfactorily completed not more than 60 calendar days after the date on which the applicant began the test. (e) If all increments of the practical test for a certificate or a rating are not satisfactorily completed within 60 calendar days after the date on which the applicant began the test, the applicant must retake the entire practical test, including those increments satisfactorily completed. [Doc. No. 25910, 62 FR 16298, Apr. 4, 1997; Amdt. 61-103, 62 FR 40897, July 30, 1997, as amended by Amdt. 61-104, 63 FR 20286, Apr. 23, 1998] ande 61.63. To add a SEL or SES rating as an ATP is much easier. "Emily" wrote in message . .. | Jim Macklin wrote: | The CLT multi-commercial should have been surrendered, do | they both have the same number and name. Have you checked | on the FAA web site for his official ratings? | | He's opted out (or he's lying about being a pilot, but I've seen him | walk off a commercial jet in uniform and with ID, so I'm guessing he's | opted out). | | I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his | commercial but didn't for some reason. I have a feeling it has to do | with his military experience. | | So let me get this straight, if he adds on to the commercial (which I | don't think he can do, since he shouldn't have one) it requires the | training and signoffs, but if he adds on to the ATP, it doesn't? Can | you point in me in the right direction for added on ATP ratings? |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
Jim Macklin wrote:
(3) Is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate or an additional rating to an airline transport pilot certificate in an aircraft that does not require an aircraft type rating practical test. So per this, he doesn't have to do a practical test. What DOES he have to do? You know, I'm doing this the wrong way. HE should be figuring this out. |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
You know, I'm doing this the wrong way. HE should be figuring this out.
Well, yes, but you have to know too. Jose -- There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
He doesn't need a written test or a sign-off from a CFI, but
he must pass the practical [flight test}] for an ATP. "Emily" wrote in message ... | Jim Macklin wrote: | | | (3) Is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate | or an additional rating to an airline transport pilot | certificate in an aircraft that does not require an aircraft | type rating practical test. | | So per this, he doesn't have to do a practical test. What DOES he have | to do? | | You know, I'm doing this the wrong way. HE should be figuring this out. |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
You have to read all of the regulations, I just posted the
one section that allows skipping some of the paperwork on an additional rating. "Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:%rJPg.23058$SZ3.20912@dukeread04... | 61.31 plus 61.39 | c) A person is not required to comply with the provisions of | paragraph (a)(6) of this section if that person: | (1) Holds a foreign-pilot license issued by a contracting | State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation that | authorizes at least the pilot privileges of the airman | certificate sought; | | (2) Is applying for a type rating only, or a class rating | with an associated type rating; or | | (3) Is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate | or an additional rating to an airline transport pilot | certificate in an aircraft that does not require an aircraft | type rating practical test. | | (d) If all increments of the practical test for a | certificate or rating are not completed on one date, all | remaining increments of the test must be satisfactorily | completed not more than 60 calendar days after the date on | which the applicant began the test. | | (e) If all increments of the practical test for a | certificate or a rating are not satisfactorily completed | within 60 calendar days after the date on which the | applicant began the test, the applicant must retake the | entire practical test, including those increments | satisfactorily completed. | | [Doc. No. 25910, 62 FR 16298, Apr. 4, 1997; Amdt. 61-103, 62 | FR 40897, July 30, 1997, as amended by Amdt. 61-104, 63 FR | 20286, Apr. 23, 1998] | | ande 61.63. | | | | | | To add a SEL or SES rating as an ATP is much easier. | | | | | | | | "Emily" wrote in message | . .. || Jim Macklin wrote: || The CLT multi-commercial should have been surrendered, | do || they both have the same number and name. Have you | checked || on the FAA web site for his official ratings? || || He's opted out (or he's lying about being a pilot, but | I've seen him || walk off a commercial jet in uniform and with ID, so I'm | guessing he's || opted out). || || I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have | surrendered his || commercial but didn't for some reason. I have a feeling | it has to do || with his military experience. || || So let me get this straight, if he adds on to the | commercial (which I || don't think he can do, since he shouldn't have one) it | requires the || training and signoffs, but if he adds on to the ATP, it | doesn't? Can || you point in me in the right direction for added on ATP | ratings? | | |
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Emily wrote:
Jim Macklin wrote: The CLT multi-commercial should have been surrendered, do they both have the same number and name. Have you checked on the FAA web site for his official ratings? He's opted out (or he's lying about being a pilot, but I've seen him walk off a commercial jet in uniform and with ID, so I'm guessing he's opted out). Maybe he's a flight attendant? Remember "The Simpsons"? G FWIW, certificates are public information and very easy to check via the FAA web site. |
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ATP wants a single engine add on
"Emily" wrote in message . .. Sylvain wrote: Emily wrote: I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his commercial but didn't for some reason. one pretty good reason not to surrender a certificate when you upgrade it, is if said certificate has a rating which you do not want to give up and which is not covered by the new certificate. Yes, but he had a commercial multi limited to centerline thrust and got an unrestricted ATP multi. That doesn't make any sense. Why keep a centerline thrust restriction? From what I have seen the ratings are all on one card. My ATP is for multi-engine and it says on it "commercial privileges - SEL". When I received my new card in the mail my old commercial card that I had surrendered was with it also. The FAA thought I might like it back since it was an original issue and I had been packing it for 18 years. They did punch a hole in it though. Allen |
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B A R R Y wrote:
Emily wrote: Jim Macklin wrote: The CLT multi-commercial should have been surrendered, do they both have the same number and name. Have you checked on the FAA web site for his official ratings? He's opted out (or he's lying about being a pilot, but I've seen him walk off a commercial jet in uniform and with ID, so I'm guessing he's opted out). Maybe he's a flight attendant? Remember "The Simpsons"? G FWIW, certificates are public information and very easy to check via the FAA web site. You can opt out of the database. I didn't realize people didn't know that. |
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