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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on
the airframe for the first time last Sunday. Everything is working perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits. All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of the wing fuel bladders. I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. We're expecting the first flight in May. I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet over the last year. Click on the dates to see photos and videos of the project. http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12, 2010), it is located he http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e- mail... Bob Carlton Desert Aerospace, LLC Albuquerque, NM USA 505-239-5967 |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
Which reminds me...
Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W airshowbob wrote: The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on the airframe for the first time last Sunday. Everything is working perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits. All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of the wing fuel bladders. I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. We're expecting the first flight in May. I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet over the last year. Click on the dates to see photos and videos of the project. http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12, 2010), it is located he http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e- mail... Bob Carlton Desert Aerospace, LLC Albuquerque, NM USA 505-239-5967 |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
Caproni only built a few gliders with the jet engine (I believe only
4). At least a couple are still flying. I heard the Australian Air Force bought the production rights, but I haven't heard any more. Some German guys have parts to build several. They are also looking at the TJ-100 engine. I believe the Caproni/TRS-18 wasn't the best combination. The airframe was very heavy, and the engine was too small. Jets aren't known for their short field performance. Pushing the extra weight to liftoff speed took a lot of runway. The mechanical fuel control made the engine overly complicated and finicky (after all, that was 30 years ago). Basically, it was too much, too soon. But, at least they tried... Others have tried as well. The earliest attempt at a jet sailplane I can find is the Hanle/Hutter H-13 (predecessor to the Libelle & Salto) . It had a huge BMW turbine stuffed behind the wing spar. The engine probably weighed as much as the airframe, with maybe 60 lbs thrust. Bob On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W airshowbob wrote: The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on the airframe for the first time last Sunday. *Everything is working perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits. All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of the wing fuel bladders. *I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. *We're expecting the first flight in May. *I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet over the last year. *Click on the dates to see photos and videos of the project. http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12, 2010), it is located he http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e- mail... Bob Carlton Desert Aerospace, LLC Albuquerque, NM USA 505-239-5967 |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
On Apr 14, 7:40*pm, airshowbob wrote:
Caproni only built a few gliders with the jet engine (I believe only 4). *At least a couple are still flying. *I heard the Australian Air Force bought the production rights, but I haven't heard any more. Some German guys have parts to build several. *They are also looking at the TJ-100 engine. I believe the Caproni/TRS-18 wasn't the best combination. *The airframe was very heavy, and the engine was too small. *Jets aren't known for their short field performance. *Pushing the extra weight to liftoff speed took a lot of runway. *The mechanical fuel control made the engine overly complicated and finicky (after all, that was 30 years ago). *Basically, it was too much, too soon. *But, at least they tried... Others have tried as well. *The earliest attempt at a jet sailplane I can find is the Hanle/Hutter H-13 (predecessor to the Libelle & Salto) . *It had a huge BMW turbine stuffed behind the wing spar. *The engine probably weighed as much as the airframe, with maybe 60 lbs thrust. Bob On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W airshowbob wrote: The TST-14 BonusJet is nearing completion. We ran the TJ-100 engine on the airframe for the first time last Sunday. *Everything is working perfectly, and the tail temperatures were well below limits. All that remains is some tidying up of the wiring, and installation of the wing fuel bladders. *I'll be in airshow mode for the next couple of weeks, so these tasks will have to wait a bit. *We're expecting the first flight in May. *I have posted a progress page to show the development of the BonusJet over the last year. *Click on the dates to see photos and videos of the project. http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_progress.html If you want to jump straight to the engine test video (April 12, 2010), it is located he http://www.desertaerospace.com/bonusjet_2010_04_12.html If you're interested in a jet glider checkout, give me a call or e- mail... Bob Carlton Desert Aerospace, LLC Albuquerque, NM USA 505-239-5967 I had an old colleague with a standard (non-jet) Caproni. I think the wings contained plutonium or some other very heavy metal. The ship is VERY heavy. The take-off run behind the club's strongest towplane was notably excruciating - I didn't know that our runways were that long! In the air, it handled well, and I actually liked the side-by-side seating, but, gosh, it was a heavy brute. Mike |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote:
Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. There is also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm climb rate near sea level reported. Frank Whiteley |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm climb rate near sea level reported. Frank Whiteley There is NOT one in Oregon. I tried to locate both the ship and the owner two years ago. Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in Australia. Mike |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
On Apr 15, 3:12*am, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote: On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm climb rate near sea level reported. Frank Whiteley There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in Australia. Mike Last summer at the 18m nats there was an A21 tied down on the ramp at Ephrata Washington. I thought perhaps a jet model ? Anybody know ? See ya, Dave "YO electric" |
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Jet two seat self-launcher nearing completion
On Apr 15, 1:12*am, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote: On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm climb rate near sea level reported. Frank Whiteley There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in Australia. Mike On an extended walk about, eh? Perhaps we'll hear from OZ. Frank |
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On Apr 15, 5:14*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Apr 15, 3:12*am, SoaringXCellence wrote: On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote: On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm climb rate near sea level reported. Frank Whiteley There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in Australia. Mike Last summer at the 18m nats there was an A21 tied down on the ramp at Ephrata Washington. I thought perhaps a jet model ? Anybody know ? See ya, Dave "YO electric" Different summer, same location http://flightlog.seven-alpha.com/ca.html |
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On Apr 15, 4:14*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Apr 15, 3:12*am, SoaringXCellence wrote: On Apr 14, 8:04*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote: On Apr 14, 4:21*pm, brian whatcott wrote: Which reminds me... Whatever happened to the Caproni jet? Brian W There are two A21SJ's listed in Texas, and one in Oregon. *There is also an A21 rebuild that was fitted with a jet in Washington, 1500fpm climb rate near sea level reported. Frank Whiteley There is NOT one in Oregon. *I tried to locate both the ship and the owner two years ago. *Rumor has it that the owner and ship is MIA in Australia. Mike Last summer at the 18m nats there was an A21 tied down on the ramp at Ephrata Washington. I thought perhaps a jet model ? Anybody know ? See ya, Dave "YO electric" The A21 in Ephrata does have a jet and belongs to Dave Harris of BD5 jet fame. It's been beautifully done and reportedly moves out quite smartly. Craig |
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