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Something missing on the missed?
Geez! I can see why its hard to post here. I live in SoCal. Did IFR
missed approaches in EMT for my IFR ticket! Did the exact missed approach proceedure mentioned! Didnt mean to confuse anyone! Just relaying what really is true from 1st hand, actual experince with approaches with no charted hold, in SoCal Airspace. I thought that was important - you know, like a Pirep! |
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Something missing on the missed?
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message ... Sorry ... what's a VFR Tower? A tower where IFR services are provided by the overlying TRACON or Center. |
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"Newps" wrote in message news Sorry ... what's a VFR Tower? Any tower that isn't at the main airport for class B or C. What (if any) is the distinction? (I'm thinking of the Phoenix area that has six or seven towers within the Phoenix Class B) -- Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO |
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"Newps" wrote in message news Sorry ... what's a VFR Tower? Any tower that isn't at the main airport for class B or C. Hmmm......., Duluth Tower isn't the main airport for Class B or C airspace. Neither are Rockford, Muskegon, or Waterloo Towers. Are these examples of VFR Towers? |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... "Newps" wrote in message news Sorry ... what's a VFR Tower? Any tower that isn't at the main airport for class B or C. What (if any) is the distinction? (I'm thinking of the Phoenix area that has six or seven towers within the Phoenix Class B) He's wrong, again. It's best to ignore him. VFR Tower is just another term for Nonapproach Control Tower. From the Pilot/Controller Glossary: NONAPPROACH CONTROL TOWER- Authorizes aircraft to land or takeoff at the airport controlled by the tower or to transit the Class D airspace. The primary function of a nonapproach control tower is the sequencing of aircraft in the traffic pattern and on the landing area. Nonapproach control towers also separate aircraft operating under instrument flight rules clearances from approach controls and centers. They provide ground control services to aircraft, vehicles, personnel, and equipment on the airport movement area. |
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On 04/13/06 09:18, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message ... Sorry ... what's a VFR Tower? A tower where IFR services are provided by the overlying TRACON or Center. So what are these IFR services? When I'm flying an IAP to my local Class D airport, I get handed-off to the tower controller, who stays with me through the rest of the approach, clearing me to land (if I get that far), separating me from VFR traffic using radar, etc.. Are these not IFR services? Thanks for any clarification ... I'm just fuzzy on the distinction ;-) |
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"Mark Hansen" wrote in message ... So what are these IFR services? When I'm flying an IAP to my local Class D airport, I get handed-off to the tower controller, who stays with me through the rest of the approach, clearing me to land (if I get that far), separating me from VFR traffic using radar, etc.. Are these not IFR services? No, they're not. Runway separation is provided to all aircraft at towered fields and there is no separation provided to VFR aircraft in Class D airspace, unless there is also a TRSA. If there is a TRSA it's not a VFR Tower. What is your local Class D? |
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message news Sorry ... what's a VFR Tower? Any tower that isn't at the main airport for class B or C. What (if any) is the distinction? (I'm thinking of the Phoenix area that has six or seven towers within the Phoenix Class B) There is only one Class B airport in the PHX Class B area. |
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On 04/13/06 10:34, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message ... So what are these IFR services? When I'm flying an IAP to my local Class D airport, I get handed-off to the tower controller, who stays with me through the rest of the approach, clearing me to land (if I get that far), separating me from VFR traffic using radar, etc.. Are these not IFR services? No, they're not. Runway separation is provided to all aircraft at towered fields and there is no separation provided to VFR aircraft in Class D airspace, unless there is also a TRSA. If there is a TRSA it's not a VFR Tower. What is your local Class D? The airport I'm speaking about is Sacramento Executive (KSAC) (it is not a TRSA). I didn't say separation of VFR traffic; I said separation between me (IFR) and other VFR traffic. So I can see what you're talking about, can you provide some examples of IFR services provided by a Class C tower (say, Sacramento Intl, for example) that are not provided by the Class D tower (KSAC, in this case)? Again, I'm just trying to understand what make this Class D a VFR tower. Thanks, |
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