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Old August 13th 03, 09:44 PM
Greg Esres
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the military is not governed by FARs...

Here's a copy from a FAA letter of interpretation:

December 9, 1992
Dr. Dietrich Bahls

Dear Dr. Bahls:

....

You are correct that in the U.S. there is only "one" airspace in which
both civil and military aircraft operate. While in U.S. airspace Part
91 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) governs the operation of
aircraft, both civilian and military. Outside of U.S. airspace,
however, the rules of the appropriate jurisdiction govern both U.S.
civilian and military aircraft operations.

....

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Old August 14th 03, 12:00 AM
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yawnnn ...
AGITPROP...
emotionally loaded buzz words....
flat out wrong (or lie) about the chemical family - Dexedrine
(dextroamphetamine sulfate) is not a narcotic...
tens of thousands of children are on amphetamines daily for ADHD and they
don't hallucinate...
essentially zero facts and lots of panting and glaring......

if you don't like what the military does, enlist, work your way up to be
chief of the pentagon, and change the policies....


BTW, coffee is a drug, Pepsi is a drug, Tylenol is a drug, paprika is a
drug, cinnamon is a drug, licorice is a drug, jalapena is a drug, and on and
on...

Denny

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Old August 14th 03, 03:37 AM
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"Greg Esres" wrote in message
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the military is not governed by FARs...

Here's a copy from a FAA letter of interpretation:

December 9, 1992
Dr. Dietrich Bahls

Dear Dr. Bahls:

...

You are correct that in the U.S. there is only "one" airspace in which
both civil and military aircraft operate. While in U.S. airspace Part
91 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) governs the operation of
aircraft, both civilian and military.


No, military compliance with CFR14 is at the US military's discression. A
FAR is a Fedral Acquisition Regulation and is not an FAA regulation.


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Old August 14th 03, 04:39 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:56:46 -0700, Steve Hix wrote
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Which still doesn't mean that amphetamines are narcotics...they are
not.


Umm... Who said they were?


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Old August 14th 03, 04:51 AM
Greg Esres
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No, military compliance with CFR14 is at the US military's
discression.

Well, you're contradicting the FAA's General Counsel's Office.

By what authority are you able to do that?


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Old August 14th 03, 05:06 AM
Tarver Engineering
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"Greg Esres" wrote in message
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No, military compliance with CFR14 is at the US military's
discression.

Well, you're contradicting the FAA's General Counsel's Office.


FAA's General Counsel has absolutely no authority over the US Military.

By what authority are you able to do that?


The US Constitution, which puts the Military directly under the President,
while US DOT is an extra Contitutional entity; with its authority delegated
by Congresss to the Executive. US DOT is not even a part of the chain of
cammand.


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Old August 14th 03, 05:22 AM
Greg Esres
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FAA's General Counsel has absolutely no authority over the US
Military.

We're talking about knowledge of the law.

The US Constitution, which puts the Military directly under the
President,

That's silly. Everyone working for the President doesn't have to obey
the law?

FAR 91.1 says that it "prescribes rules governing the operation of
aircraft...within the United States...."

Doesn't say "civil" or "military", so it applies to everyone, unless
the law itself provides the exemption.

Can you provide any supporting evidence at all to justify your
position?


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Old August 14th 03, 07:04 AM
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No, military compliance with CFR14 is at the US military's discression. A
FAR is a Fedral Acquisition Regulation and is not an FAA regulation.



Um, Tarver? FAR = Federal Aviation Regulations. Next time you go to a book
store or FBO pick up the current FAR/AIM.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old August 14th 03, 10:32 AM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:52:23 GMT, Chad Irby wrote
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in the doses used by US airmen, it's more on the level of "lots of
coffee withtout the urination problem."


What dose would that be?


5 mg to 10 mg. Well below the more dangerous doses seen in recreational
users.

Dexedrine is one of the milder amphetamines.

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Old August 14th 03, 03:02 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ...

"Greg Esres" wrote in message
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the military is not governed by FARs...

Here's a copy from a FAA letter of interpretation:

December 9, 1992
Dr. Dietrich Bahls

Dear Dr. Bahls:

...

You are correct that in the U.S. there is only "one" airspace in which
both civil and military aircraft operate. While in U.S. airspace Part
91 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) governs the operation of
aircraft, both civilian and military.


No, military compliance with CFR14 is at the US military's discression. A
FAR is a Fedral Acquisition Regulation and is not an FAA regulation.

The FAA, and even the 14CFR itself refers to 14 CFR as the Federal Aviation
Regulations and uses the abbreviation FAR.


 




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