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  #111  
Old August 22nd 03, 03:34 PM
Chip Jones
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"Michael 182" wrote in message
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If I wanted to commend his work to his supervisor, how would I do so? He

did
a great job - every handoff was accompanied by "123.45, Great job today!
Thanks"


If you wanted to coomend his work, you'd have to dial the main commercial
line into the facility with your kudos. Even then it is unlikely the actual
controller would hear of it (unless it was BAD service, and then they'd
track it down). I'd say the best way to commend his work would be this: On
one of those days when you are dealing with an ATC Jackass somewhere in the
system, just remember that good controllers like the ZME guy exist too.

Chip, ZTL


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Old August 22nd 03, 04:22 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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I was just remaking your point. "Piling on" so to speak. Sometimes

you
are just too darned succinct.


I see no reason to use twenty words if I can say it in ten.


I know.


  #114  
Old August 22nd 03, 06:44 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" writes:
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How would that provide proof that the collision took place in IMC?


Because the guy at 7000 stated he was in IMC.


That's not proof, that's a statement. The other plane was
"saying" it's VMC.
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Old August 22nd 03, 08:36 PM
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Once below a certain agl altitude the TCAS will not give and RA but only
a TA.

Roy Smith wrote:
I asked:

Do TCAS RA's take terrain into account?



Newps wrote:

Yes, the airplane knows how high it is. It will not drive it self into
the ground.



Bob Noel wrote:

TCAS units do not contain terrain databases.



I'm having a hard time making these two responses jive :-)


  #116  
Old August 22nd 03, 08:41 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Newps" wrote in message news:ihu1b.227105$Ho3.29390@sccrnsc03...
Once below a certain agl altitude the TCAS will not give and RA but only
a TA.

It's needs to be hooked to the radar altimiter in addition to the pressuer alt. from the
encoder/air data computer?



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Old August 22nd 03, 08:48 PM
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Snowbird wrote:

Newps wrote in message news:dTf1b.167931$cF.58574@rwcrnsc53...

Roy Smith wrote:

Newps wrote:



If the TCAS gives an RA the airliner must take the action
suggested.


Do TCAS RA's take terrain into account?


Yes, the airplane knows how high it is. It will not drive it self into
the ground.



Knowing how high it is, is only part of what's needed -- does it
know where it is, and how high the terrain is nearby?


Doesn't need to know where it is. Only how far above the ground it is
or will be in a few seconds. The TCAS will only tell you to go either
up or down, not right or left.

  #118  
Old August 22nd 03, 11:13 PM
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In article , Roy Smith
wrote:

I asked:
Do TCAS RA's take terrain into account?


Newps wrote:
Yes, the airplane knows how high it is. It will not drive it self into
the ground.


Bob Noel wrote:
TCAS units do not contain terrain databases.


I'm having a hard time making these two responses jive :-)


I haven't had an opportunity to check my TCAS sources. But
I seem to remember the TCAS II unit having some interface
with the Radar Altimeter. Also, I'm pretty sure that a GPWS
(or TAWS) warning/alert/whateveritiscalled takes priority over
an RA.

Note that a radar altimeter isn't normally used above 2500' agl.

does that help?

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Bob Noel
  #119  
Old August 23rd 03, 10:50 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Everett M. Greene" wrote in message
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That's not proof, that's a statement. The other plane was
"saying" it's VMC.


A pilot's report of his flight conditions is taken as fact.


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Old August 23rd 03, 10:51 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Newps" wrote in message
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Once below a certain agl altitude the TCAS will not give and RA but only
a TA.


How does the TCAS know the AGL altitude?


 




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