"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

On Jan 9, 12:44 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote :



On Jan 8, 9:08 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder wrote
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

the temp change is almost irrelevant in itself. It;s the Wx
changes that it's going to produce that are the problem.

Also you're going to have to replace florida.

Bertie

Well they can't tell me what the weathers going to be with
anything close to certainty next month why the hell should I
believe them when they say what it will be 10, 20 or 50 years
down the road?

Actually, forecasting has become incredibly accurate in the last
twenty years and is getting better all the time, short term
certainly. I never cease to be amazed at how accurate winds aloft
are, for the most part, and terminal forecasting is probably ten
times more accurate than it was even ten or fifteen years ago.

As to the predictions they're making long term, so far the trend
seems to be accurate. More wind, more storms. record highs and
lows..
As for Florida, I can live with that.

Mmm me too.

Shame about the everglades, though.

Bertie

Come on Bertie, they said this was going to be a dry winter in the
Western US. Hasn't been the case.

Both of the last two years they have said would be the worst
Hurricane seasons on record. Both years they were wrong. If they
keep saying that every year sooner or later they are going to be
right.

OK, point taken.

Of course if the Wx is chaging dramatically, then extremes will
become more common and they'll be worknig with an ever more
unfamiliar model. I'm looking at a very fierce gale at the moment.and
we've lost more trees this year than we have in all the years I've
lived at this place.

Bertie

The really interesting deal with the Wx is insurance and floods...if
everyone in the country (seen the Midwest recently?) is subject to
flooding and is required to purchase flood insurance that will be
another bit of money out of circulation or do with out and then depend
upon the largess of strangers to help you rebuild. Either way the
economy takes a hit. People seem to think that agencies like FEMA
somehow appear out of thin air and don't realize that they are part of
'we the people'.

s
Sorry, I don't follow. You mnean the money going towards insurance is
money that is not spent elswhere on a more economically stimulating
area? IOW it doesn't produce?

Money to me is something for throwing off the back of trains according
to mrs bunyip.

Bertie

If the floodplains as defined by the USGS continue to expand (as they
have here, suddenly I'm in a flood plain!) insurance will be hard to
come by and/or more expensive. Most folks think of premiums as money
'thrown off the back of a train' in any case...until they need it.
Mudslides, tornadoes, floods...think of GW (bush too) as Spring x2 (to
start).

Picture the effect on the economy when what little discretionary
income folks have left after making the minimums to MC and Visa goes
toward food because the weather patterns have changed and/or the land
is being used for ethanol production snort. Folks will riot not
because they can't afford gas for their SUVs, they'll riot because
they can't afford cable to numb their brains.

It will be an interesting time for sure.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


Money to me is something for throwing off the back of trains according
to mrs bunyip.

Bertie

Or throwing at airplanes..according to mrs. Kloudy

why was this thread started anyway?
isn't there a politics/ alt.lithium.withdrawl group somewhere to talk about
fascism, hillary, GW etc.?

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"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


Money to me is something for throwing off the back of trains according
to mrs bunyip.

Bertie

Or throwing at airplanes..according to mrs. Kloudy

Well, exactly. Mine's whining about getting the front porch rebuilt
instead.
It's still standing for ****'s sake!
And she knows NOTHING about the stuctural qualities of plastic wood filler.


why was this thread started anyway?

Ask Jay.


isn't there a politics/ alt.lithium.withdrawl group somewhere to talk
about fascism, hillary, GW etc.?


I never let an idiotic remark pass. It's pretty much my only firm rule in
life.


Bertie

wrote in
:

On Jan 9, 12:44 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote
innews:9cd5f860-161f-4b25-b2f2-

m:



On Jan 8, 9:08 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder wrote
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

the temp change is almost irrelevant in itself. It;s the Wx
changes that it's going to produce that are the problem.

Also you're going to have to replace florida.

Bertie

Well they can't tell me what the weathers going to be with
anything close to certainty next month why the hell should I
believe them when they say what it will be 10, 20 or 50 years
down the road?

Actually, forecasting has become incredibly accurate in the
last twenty years and is getting better all the time, short
term certainly. I never cease to be amazed at how accurate
winds aloft are, for the most part, and terminal forecasting is
probably ten times more accurate than it was even ten or
fifteen years ago.

As to the predictions they're making long term, so far the
trend seems to be accurate. More wind, more storms. record
highs and lows..
As for Florida, I can live with that.

Mmm me too.

Shame about the everglades, though.

Bertie

Come on Bertie, they said this was going to be a dry winter in
the Western US. Hasn't been the case.

Both of the last two years they have said would be the worst
Hurricane seasons on record. Both years they were wrong. If they
keep saying that every year sooner or later they are going to be
right.

OK, point taken.

Of course if the Wx is chaging dramatically, then extremes will
become more common and they'll be worknig with an ever more
unfamiliar model. I'm looking at a very fierce gale at the
moment.and we've lost more trees this year than we have in all the
years I've lived at this place.

Bertie

The really interesting deal with the Wx is insurance and
floods...if everyone in the country (seen the Midwest recently?) is
subject to flooding and is required to purchase flood insurance
that will be another bit of money out of circulation or do with out
and then depend upon the largess of strangers to help you rebuild.
Either way the economy takes a hit. People seem to think that
agencies like FEMA somehow appear out of thin air and don't realize
that they are part of 'we the people'.

s
Sorry, I don't follow. You mnean the money going towards insurance is
money that is not spent elswhere on a more economically stimulating
area? IOW it doesn't produce?

Money to me is something for throwing off the back of trains
according to mrs bunyip.

Bertie

If the floodplains as defined by the USGS continue to expand (as they
have here, suddenly I'm in a flood plain!) insurance will be hard to
come by and/or more expensive. Most folks think of premiums as money
'thrown off the back of a train' in any case...until they need it.
Mudslides, tornadoes, floods...think of GW (bush too) as Spring x2 (to
start).

Picture the effect on the economy when what little discretionary
income folks have left after making the minimums to MC and Visa goes
toward food because the weather patterns have changed and/or the land
is being used for ethanol production snort. Folks will riot not
because they can't afford gas for their SUVs, they'll riot because
they can't afford cable to numb their brains.

It will be an interesting time for sure.


I thinnk so. Our Wx has been insane this winter. OTOH I have been
getting very little x-wind practice in the las few years..

Bertie

fails to grasp the meaning of
'omnipotent',


Ah, faint echos of Bertrand Russell, paraphrasing here from the 1930s:
"Do you really think that if there was a god and he had all the time
and all the power and all the knowledge in the world, all he would come
up with is Winston Churchill and the Nazis?"

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Bertie,

but anyone who believes the set of
fairytales known as the bible is welcome to it.


Actually, no, I don't think so. Too much harm has been done by those
who do. The track record is way down in the negatives on terms of
benefits for society.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Bertie,

but anyone who believes the set of
fairytales known as the bible is welcome to it.


Actually, no, I don't think so. Too much harm has been done by those
who do. The track record is way down in the negatives on terms of
benefits for society.


Well, you try taking it off of them.


Bertie

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Bertie,

but anyone who believes the set of
fairytales known as the bible is welcome to it.


Actually, no, I don't think so. Too much harm has been done by those
who do. The track record is way down in the negatives on terms of
benefits for society.


And atheists have been all sweetness and light. How many people did
Stalin have killed?

Don't blame on God or even the belief in God what can easily be
explained by the nature of man.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Thomas Borchert wrote:
Bertie,

but anyone who believes the set of
fairytales known as the bible is welcome to it.


Actually, no, I don't think so. Too much harm has been done by those
who do. The track record is way down in the negatives on terms of
benefits for society.


And atheists have been all sweetness and light.

Shucks no - sometimes we go for a Guiness.

How many people did Stalin have killed?

Was somebody counting? Besides, did he have them killed because of their
religous beliefs or because they were a threat to his power?

Don't blame on God or even the belief in God what can easily be
explained by the nature of man.

Well that begs the question whether the Bible is a work of God or a work of
men.

Since evolution vs creation was brought up somewhere up-thread, do you
think the Tennessee Butler Act and the subsequent verdict of the 1925
"Scopes Trial" served justice or not?

Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Thomas Borchert wrote:
Bertie,

but anyone who believes the set of
fairytales known as the bible is welcome to it.


Actually, no, I don't think so. Too much harm has been done by those
who do. The track record is way down in the negatives on terms of
benefits for society.


And atheists have been all sweetness and light.

Shucks no - sometimes we go for a Guiness.

How many people did Stalin have killed?

Was somebody counting? Besides, did he have them killed because of
their religous beliefs or because they were a threat to his power?

Don't blame on God or even the belief in God what can easily be
explained by the nature of man.

Well that begs the question whether the Bible is a work of God or a
work of men.

Since evolution vs creation was brought up somewhere up-thread, do you
think the Tennessee Butler Act and the subsequent verdict of the 1925
"Scopes Trial" served justice or not?


Good grief, i'm redundant.

Bertie