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Old December 21st 06, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
pittss1c
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

An old (and a fair bit bold) VERY experienced pilot once told me...

To live a long life...
Try to avoid the A model of anything, and never fly anything that
doesn't have the paint worn off the rudder pedals.




Deaf2u wrote:
http://www.global-air.com/global/g05229.htm

Could it be?? You'd think he'd at least fly it once. Or watch it fly. What's
the story here Juan?


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Old December 22nd 06, 02:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Richard Isakson
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Warning!: From what Juan has written on this newsgroup, he hasn't been
able start his engine in a Year and a half.

Warning!: From what Juan has written on this newsgroup, this engine doesn't
have it's fuel control unit that would protect it from a turbine over temp.

Warning!: From the description of this engine in Janes, this engine doesn't
have a turbine disk failure system. This makes Juan's airplane lighter than
all other BD-5Js and won him recognition as having the lightest non-flying,
non-running BD-5J in the world to be recognized by a beer company.

Warning!: If you are near this airplane while its running be very worried.
If the turbine over temps and starts shedding turbine blades, there's
nothing to stop them from going through fuselage structural members, flight
controls, control cables, fuel tanks and anyone standing nearby.

Did Juan forget to mention all this in his ad?

Rich


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Old December 22nd 06, 02:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Richard Isakson wrote:
Warning!: From what Juan has written on this newsgroup, he hasn't been
able start his engine in a Year and a half.

Warning!: From what Juan has written on this newsgroup, this engine doesn't
have it's fuel control unit that would protect it from a turbine over temp.

Warning!: From the description of this engine in Janes, this engine doesn't
have a turbine disk failure system. This makes Juan's airplane lighter than
all other BD-5Js and won him recognition as having the lightest non-flying,
non-running BD-5J in the world to be recognized by a beer company.

Warning!: If you are near this airplane while its running be very worried.
If the turbine over temps and starts shedding turbine blades, there's
nothing to stop them from going through fuselage structural members, flight
controls, control cables, fuel tanks and anyone standing nearby.

Did Juan forget to mention all this in his ad?

Rich


No, I'm sure it's in there! You just got to read between the lines ~
the fuel and control lines in this case ~ but those count as "lines,"
right? They go with the plane...don't they?

Well, it's like they always say:

Juan for the money, two for the no show, three to get ready! Followed
by sounds of crash, explosion, funeral dirge...in that order.

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Old December 22nd 06, 10:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Steve Foley[_2_]
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

But it's a damn fine beer company.

"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
...
This makes Juan's airplane lighter than
all other BD-5Js and won him recognition as having the lightest
non-flying,
non-running BD-5J in the world to be recognized by a beer company.




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Old December 22nd 06, 11:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Deaf2u
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Well once again, disregarding the apparently intense battle\hatred DABEAR
has for Juan I still find it curious. He's owned this plane, taken pride and
made some fairly loud noises about owning it. He has a website about it and
has been all about this plane for a while and yet has no desire to see it
fulfill it's mission. I have no interest in it, I'm more interested in slow
planes with floats but I am curious.

The ad says he now wants a motorglider, now that's a far way from a little
jet.


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Old December 22nd 06, 04:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Al G[_1_]
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"Deaf2u" wrote in message
...
Well once again, disregarding the apparently intense battle\hatred DABEAR
has for Juan I still find it curious. He's owned this plane, taken pride
and made some fairly loud noises about owning it. He has a website about
it and has been all about this plane for a while and yet has no desire to
see it fulfill it's mission. I have no interest in it, I'm more interested
in slow planes with floats but I am curious.


I agree. After years of association with EAA folks, I find this a very
uncommon
attitude in a home builder. Never seen anyone like him. Richard's warnings
are probably the root cause. And, as Richard so succinctly said:

"This makes Juan's airplane lighter than
all other BD-5Js and won him recognition as having the lightest non-flying,
non-running BD-5J in the world to be recognized by a beer company.


I guess when you look at the record in a category/class kind of way, maybe
he
does hold it. A flying airplane, weighed with a pilot and fuel, would
probably be in
a completely differant class.


Al G


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Old December 22nd 06, 05:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Gig 601XL Builder
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"Al G" wrote in message
...

I guess when you look at the record in a category/class kind of way, maybe
he
does hold it. A flying airplane, weighed with a pilot and fuel, would
probably be in
a completely differant class.


If the plane never leaves the ground it isn't an airplane as far as I'm
concerned. Think how easy it would be to just put together some cardboard
and a light jet engine and call it the lightest jet airplane.


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Old December 23rd 06, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Juan Jimenez[_1_]
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"Deaf2u" wrote in message
...
Well once again, disregarding the apparently intense battle\hatred DABEAR
has for Juan I still find it curious. He's owned this plane, taken pride
and made some fairly loud noises about owning it. He has a website about
it and has been all about this plane for a while and yet has no desire to
see it fulfill it's mission. I have no interest in it, I'm more interested
in slow planes with floats but I am curious.

The ad says he now wants a motorglider, now that's a far way from a little
jet.


Your basic premise is incorrect. Everything else you conclude from there is
also wrong.



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Old December 23rd 06, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Deaf2u
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
.. .


Your basic premise is incorrect. Everything else you conclude from there
is also wrong.


I don't have any premise, and I'm not making any conclusions. Theres very
little point in leaping in here ****ing all over the place. I'm simply
curious why you don't fly it. I already have seen that you like being
obnoxious, I guess that's the way you are. But it still doesn't answer the
question.

You do have a website that's all about the BD5, it looks like you're proud
of owning it and such. You did apply get the Guinness thing. Is the project
finished without flying? I saw a BD5 jet fly quite a few years back, it was
an impressive little plane and if I'd put in the effort I'd want to fly it.
I'm just curious, not trying to start any battles-it looks like you've got
enough.


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Old December 23rd 06, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Mark Hickey
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

"Juan Jimenez" wrote:

"Deaf2u" wrote
Well once again, disregarding the apparently intense battle\hatred DABEAR
has for Juan I still find it curious. He's owned this plane, taken pride
and made some fairly loud noises about owning it. He has a website about
it and has been all about this plane for a while and yet has no desire to
see it fulfill it's mission. I have no interest in it, I'm more interested
in slow planes with floats but I am curious.

The ad says he now wants a motorglider, now that's a far way from a little
jet.


Your basic premise is incorrect. Everything else you conclude from there is
also wrong.


Funny thing - you can always tell when Yawn's replying to a factual
post... like above, he can't take exception to the facts so he just
tosses out an insult or an off-hand comment. It's a rare occasion
that he actually even tries to counter with any "facts" (I use this
word as a relative term, of course). Ipso facto, he's normally got no
defense at all for his position.

Mark "facts rule, fools drool" Hickey

 




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