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Old October 10th 19, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Foster
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Default iGlide functionality

In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.
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Old October 11th 19, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I’ve never had an issue with using the phone or iPad GPS. The only thing I’ve connect to is the flarm using air connect. I have the expensive version and everything I’ve tried works well. Other than occasionally losing my saved routes, but that’s another thread.
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Old October 11th 19, 04:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.


I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.
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Old March 7th 20, 04:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Foster
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On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.


I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.


Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?
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Old March 7th 20, 06:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 7:51:39 PM UTC-8, John Foster wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.


I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors.. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.


Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?


From a Mac or from a PC? On the newest few versions of Mac OS, simply plug the phone in and drag the files to iGlide's data. Next restart of iGlide will import the files. On a PC you may have to use iTunes to do the same thing. There are rumors that iGlide will become Files app aware in the near future which would provide potentially many ways to do it.
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Old March 8th 20, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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To load user data with the new versions (v2.7.1) they want you to use iTunes.

On Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS you can use ilibimobile, but (1) you must use the very latest version from GitHub and (2) you must load the user data into the iGlide folder, not the asp or the wpt folders. Upon starting iGlide afterwards, you'll get asked whether you want to import the new data, answer yes.

There is a slightly different technique needed on Macs, hopefully Jon Fitch will document this.

-John, Q3

On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:51:39 PM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.


I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors.. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.


Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?


To load
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Old March 8th 20, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tango Eight
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I think Tim Cook needs to sit down and watch that "1984" commercial.

oh, wait...

On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-4, John Carlyle wrote:
To load user data with the new versions (v2.7.1) they want you to use iTunes.

On Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS you can use ilibimobile, but (1) you must use the very latest version from GitHub and (2) you must load the user data into the iGlide folder, not the asp or the wpt folders. Upon starting iGlide afterwards, you'll get asked whether you want to import the new data, answer yes.

There is a slightly different technique needed on Macs, hopefully Jon Fitch will document this.

-John, Q3

On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:51:39 PM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.

I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.


Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?


To load


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Old March 8th 20, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jfitch
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On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:56:47 AM UTC-7, John Carlyle wrote:
To load user data with the new versions (v2.7.1) they want you to use iTunes.

On Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS you can use ilibimobile, but (1) you must use the very latest version from GitHub and (2) you must load the user data into the iGlide folder, not the asp or the wpt folders. Upon starting iGlide afterwards, you'll get asked whether you want to import the new data, answer yes.

There is a slightly different technique needed on Macs, hopefully Jon Fitch will document this.

-John, Q3

On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:51:39 PM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.

I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.


Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?


To load


On Mac, just plug the phone into the Mac. The iPhone will appear in the Finder in Locations. Open it and browse to Files - iGlide app. Drag and drop the file there at the top level (not in th WPT folder). You can also backup all your iGlide files from here by dragging them to your computer. In the future I believe the intent is to make iGlide Files app aware, this will allow many different methods of file transfer - airdrop, email, etc.
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Old March 9th 20, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Foster
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Default iGlide functionality

On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:56:47 AM UTC-7, John Carlyle wrote:
To load user data with the new versions (v2.7.1) they want you to use iTunes.

On Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS you can use ilibimobile, but (1) you must use the very latest version from GitHub and (2) you must load the user data into the iGlide folder, not the asp or the wpt folders. Upon starting iGlide afterwards, you'll get asked whether you want to import the new data, answer yes.

There is a slightly different technique needed on Macs, hopefully Jon Fitch will document this.

-John, Q3

On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:51:39 PM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.

I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.

Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?


To load


On Mac, just plug the phone into the Mac. The iPhone will appear in the Finder in Locations. Open it and browse to Files - iGlide app. Drag and drop the file there at the top level (not in th WPT folder). You can also backup all your iGlide files from here by dragging them to your computer. In the future I believe the intent is to make iGlide Files app aware, this will allow many different methods of file transfer - airdrop, email, etc.


Where do I get the turn point files to drop in this folder?
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Old March 10th 20, 07:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Foster
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Default iGlide functionality

On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 10:15:02 PM UTC-6, John Foster wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:56:47 AM UTC-7, John Carlyle wrote:
To load user data with the new versions (v2.7.1) they want you to use iTunes.

On Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS you can use ilibimobile, but (1) you must use the very latest version from GitHub and (2) you must load the user data into the iGlide folder, not the asp or the wpt folders. Upon starting iGlide afterwards, you'll get asked whether you want to import the new data, answer yes.

There is a slightly different technique needed on Macs, hopefully Jon Fitch will document this.

-John, Q3

On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:51:39 PM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:22:09 PM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
In an effort not to hijack a recent thread any more than I've already done, I decided to start this thread here to deal with any/all my questions regarding this software.

I'm running the "Lite" version of this currently on an iPhone XS Max. So far it is pretty basic in that it will log my flights with a moving map display. I've attempted to customize the boxes at the top and bottom of the screen, but on some flights recently, there are some features that just don't seem to work. I'm not sure if this is because its the Lite version, or if its because of something else. I did notice in a recent link to the online manual that it mentioned somewhere that "some features won't work unless connected to an outside GPS source". I'm curious why that wouldn't work using the phone's built-in GPS. I wasn't able to get it to display glide ratio and am wondering if this is the problem.

I'll likely have more questions about different features, and will try to post them here in this thread unless appropriate for elsewhere. Thanks.

I'd think the glider L/D calculation would work even on the Lite. As far as an external GPS goes: I had in the past some difficulty with the WiFi link to the Air Vario dropping. In this case you will get a stale position for about 60 seconds or so, then it will default over to the iPhone GPS and barometrics. Several times this happened and I did not notice for a long period of time, the main tipoff being no instantaneous wind vectors and no Flarm targets. Other than that it worked remarkably well on internal sensors. I finally put up the navbox which indicates the source of the GPS data so I would know if it had disconnected.

I had that problem a few years ago for a couple of months, then it seemed to go away, never did discover the cause.

Separate question: how do you upload turn point data to the app on an iPhone?

To load


On Mac, just plug the phone into the Mac. The iPhone will appear in the Finder in Locations. Open it and browse to Files - iGlide app. Drag and drop the file there at the top level (not in th WPT folder). You can also backup all your iGlide files from here by dragging them to your computer. In the future I believe the intent is to make iGlide Files app aware, this will allow many different methods of file transfer - airdrop, email, etc.


Where do I get the turn point files to drop in this folder?


Anyone?
 




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