****ed off FAA controller on blog

FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:

The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years.
LIE
See AFSS


AFSS is not ATC.

FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:


Oh **** I forgot

The FAA FIRED them all in 1980

DOUBLE LIE


It was 1981, and those controllers QUIT. Every one of them had the
opportunity to return to work and declined to do so.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:

The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years.
LIE
See AFSS


AFSS is not ATC.

They may not separate aircraft, but they had the same title and series as
any other controller. So I was giving GW the benefit of the doubt.

It's all irelevant anyway since not a single one was laid off. Being laid
off means sitting at home without a paycheck. It's not really that
complicated, but apparently it's a hard subject to grasp in
Stupidassholeville.

Mike wrote:
"FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH" wrote in message
...
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
Mike wrote:
"barton fink via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in message
news:89129c64eecd1@uwe...
No2 wrote:
DAMN!!

http://themainbang.typepad.com/

This is John Carr at his best.

A few seconds at that link.
Clear that the spud you idolize is a foaming lunatic.

What's truly funny is the spud in question and those like him have
done more harm to the ATC profession than any morons like GW will
ever realize.

I'll give you an example. After the Comair crash 2 years ago, the
spud went on TV and said it was the FAA's fault because they were
forcing controllers to work with very little crew rest. The reality
is much different. At all FAA ATC facilities, NATCA proposes the
schedule for controllers. Most facilities opt for a shift structure
that starts out on an evening shift, transitions to a day shift
(with a short break in between) and then transitions to a graveyard
shift with another short break in between. It sounds crazy, but the
reason why they do that is to give themselves a longer weekend.
After the spud blamed the FAA for something that was NATCA's fault,
the FAA is now in the process of imposing a shift structure that
will effectively cut controller's weekends down by half. This is
just a small example of the nonsense they put out on practically a
daily basis.

NATCA has the potential to do a lot of good within the FAA, but
rarely do they pick level headed leaders. Compare them to the
airlines. AA's pilot's union has a very sour relationship with
management, but even at that you will see their union standing toe
to toe with AA on some issues. If you look at some of the other
industry unions, they have a very good relationship with
management. The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30
years. No controllers have received pay cuts in the same time
period. Yet NATCA takes a confrontational stance on every single
issue and they denegrate the entire FAA at every opportunity even if
they have to lie to do so. The OP is an excellent example of the
stupidity that infests their organization.


The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years.
LIE
See AFSS



Oh **** I forgot

The FAA FIRED them all in 1980

Not all of them. Just the ones who were stupid enough not to come back
to work after they were warned repeatedly they would be fired for
participating in an ILLEGAL strike.

Furthermore PATCO endorsed Reagan in the 1980 election. I bet that
really ****ed them off.

Kinda like NATCA endorsing Obama ****es you off, eh?


DOUBLE LIE

"FIRED" does not equal layed off. Try again.

It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management
you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser

Tell me FAA management sycophant why did the FAA rate 204
out of 222 in employee morale in the 2007 Government
employee survey?

Since you love FAA management so much explain that one away
Mr. Sycophant

Mike wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:

The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years.
LIE
See AFSS


AFSS is not ATC.

They may not separate aircraft, but they had the same title and
series as any other controller. So I was giving GW the benefit of
the doubt.

They called themselves controllers but they were not controllers.

FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:

It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management
you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser

Tell me FAA management sycophant why did the FAA rate 204
out of 222 in employee morale in the 2007 Government
employee survey?

Since you love FAA management so much explain that one away
Mr. Sycophant


How many FAA managers are former NATCA members? How many of them would have
washed out as trainees and not be in FAA management today if NATCA hadn't
had a
policy of protecting every dues paying member without regard to their
ability to do the job?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:

The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years.
LIE
See AFSS


AFSS is not ATC.

They may not separate aircraft, but they had the same title and
series as any other controller. So I was giving GW the benefit of
the doubt.

They called themselves controllers but they were not controllers.

Agreed.

On Aug 24, 12:05 pm, FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
Mike wrote:
"FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH" wrote in message
...
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
Mike wrote:
"barton fink via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in message
news:89129c64eecd1@uwe...
No2 wrote:
DAMN!!

http://themainbang.typepad.com/

This is John Carr at his best.

A few seconds at that link.
Clear that the spud you idolize is a foaming lunatic.

What's truly funny is the spud in question and those like him have
done more harm to the ATC profession than any morons like GW will
ever realize.

I'll give you an example. After the Comair crash 2 years ago, the
spud went on TV and said it was the FAA's fault because they were
forcing controllers to work with very little crew rest. The reality
is much different. At all FAA ATC facilities, NATCA proposes the
schedule for controllers. Most facilities opt for a shift structure
that starts out on an evening shift, transitions to a day shift
(with a short break in between) and then transitions to a graveyard
shift with another short break in between. It sounds crazy, but the
reason why they do that is to give themselves a longer weekend.
After the spud blamed the FAA for something that was NATCA's fault,
the FAA is now in the process of imposing a shift structure that
will effectively cut controller's weekends down by half. This is
just a small example of the nonsense they put out on practically a
daily basis.

NATCA has the potential to do a lot of good within the FAA, but
rarely do they pick level headed leaders. Compare them to the
airlines. AA's pilot's union has a very sour relationship with
management, but even at that you will see their union standing toe
to toe with AA on some issues. If you look at some of the other
industry unions, they have a very good relationship with
management. The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30
years. No controllers have received pay cuts in the same time
period. Yet NATCA takes a confrontational stance on every single
issue and they denegrate the entire FAA at every opportunity even if
they have to lie to do so. The OP is an excellent example of the
stupidity that infests their organization.

The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years.
LIE
See AFSS

Oh **** I forgot

The FAA FIRED them all in 1980

Not all of them. Just the ones who were stupid enough not to come back
to work after they were warned repeatedly they would be fired for
participating in an ILLEGAL strike.

Furthermore PATCO endorsed Reagan in the 1980 election. I bet that
really ****ed them off.

Kinda like NATCA endorsing Obama ****es you off, eh?

DOUBLE LIE

"FIRED" does not equal layed off. Try again.

It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management
you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser

That doesn't follow comrade.
Simply because someone posts the truth doesn't make them wrong.

If you don't like it perhaps you'd prefer to live in a place that
doesn't allow dissent and 'intelligent' discourse?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
...
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:

It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management
you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser

Tell me FAA management sycophant why did the FAA rate 204
out of 222 in employee morale in the 2007 Government
employee survey?

Since you love FAA management so much explain that one away
Mr. Sycophant


How many FAA managers are former NATCA members? How many of them would
have
washed out as trainees and not be in FAA management today if NATCA hadn't
had a
policy of protecting every dues paying member without regard to their
ability to do the job?

I give up; how many?

With documentation, of course.

f-newguy wrote:

I give up; how many?

With documentation, of course.


It was a question, not a riddle.