"Tombstone" agency splitting hairs again

A close call between two planes at O'Hare Airport this
summer was closer than originally reported.

The National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday that
an Atlas Air cargo plane and a United Airlines jet came
within 35 feet of colliding on July 23 -- not 300 feet as
reported back in July by the Federal Aviation Administration.

The incident was one of the most serious in a string of
runway incursions at O'Hare this year.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ntsb15.article

I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.



"BillyJack" wrote in message
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| A close call between two planes at O'Hare Airport this
| summer was closer than originally reported.
|
| The National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday that
| an Atlas Air cargo plane and a United Airlines jet came
| within 35 feet of colliding on July 23 -- not 300 feet as
| reported back in July by the Federal Aviation
Administration.
|
| The incident was one of the most serious in a string of
| runway incursions at O'Hare this year.
|
|
|
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ntsb15.article

Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.



"BillyJack" wrote in message
...
|
| A close call between two planes at O'Hare Airport this
| summer was closer than originally reported.
|
| The National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday that
| an Atlas Air cargo plane and a United Airlines jet came
| within 35 feet of colliding on July 23 -- not 300 feet as
| reported back in July by the Federal Aviation
Administration.
|
| The incident was one of the most serious in a string of
| runway incursions at O'Hare this year.
|
|
|
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ntsb15.article

Not race, culture, some cultures have a rather dangerous
attitude about process and procedures.


"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
| Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging,
based on your
| entirely scientific study?
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| ...
| I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement
of
| US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions
and
| near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots
from
| certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
| about such things.
|
|
|
| "BillyJack" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | A close call between two planes at O'Hare Airport this
| | summer was closer than originally reported.
| |
| | The National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday
that
| | an Atlas Air cargo plane and a United Airlines jet
came
| | within 35 feet of colliding on July 23 -- not 300 feet
as
| | reported back in July by the Federal Aviation
| Administration.
| |
| | The incident was one of the most serious in a string
of
| | runway incursions at O'Hare this year.
| |
| |
| |
|
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ntsb15.article
|
|
|
|

Come on Jim, You are standing on the edge !
Every culture [and race] has the proverbial bad apple, but to generalize
about a culture [or race] is just off the wall.

Roy
Piper Archer N5804F


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...

Not race, culture, some cultures have a rather dangerous
attitude about process and procedures.


"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
| Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging,
based on your
| entirely scientific study?
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| ...
| I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement
of
| US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions
and
| near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots
from
| certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
| about such things.
|
|
|
| "BillyJack" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | A close call between two planes at O'Hare Airport this
| | summer was closer than originally reported.
| |
| | The National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday
that
| | an Atlas Air cargo plane and a United Airlines jet
came
| | within 35 feet of colliding on July 23 -- not 300 feet
as
| | reported back in July by the Federal Aviation
| Administration.
| |
| | The incident was one of the most serious in a string
of
| | runway incursions at O'Hare this year.
| |
| |
| |
|
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ntsb15.article
|
|
|
|

No, to ignore actual difference is dangerous. Case in
point, several years ago an airliner with a 100 passengers
crashed on Long Island. There were many survivors since
there was no fire fire. No fuel remained on the airplane
which had held over the ocean because the pilots did not
seek emergency handling, even though they knew they were
running out of fuel. They also knew that the NYC area had
bad weather and long delays but they did not divert and land
at the dozens of airports from Miami to NYC and New
England. This was clearly a machismo thing.

I isn't about race, skin color or even religion. It is
about culture. If you don't understand the difference, take
a few courses.



"Roy N5804F" wrote in
message
ink.net...
|
| Come on Jim, You are standing on the edge !
| Every culture [and race] has the proverbial bad apple, but
to generalize
| about a culture [or race] is just off the wall.
|
| Roy
| Piper Archer N5804F
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| ...
|
| Not race, culture, some cultures have a rather dangerous
| attitude about process and procedures.
|
|
| "Barney Rubble" wrote in
message
| ...
| | Come on spill the beans, which race are you
disparaging,
| based on your
| | entirely scientific study?
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | ...
| | I'd like to see a study that breaks down the
involvement
| of
| | US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those
incursions
| and
| | near mid airs. It has been my experience that
pilots
| from
| | certain places in the world have a very casual
attitude
| | about such things.
| |
| |
| |
| | "BillyJack" wrote in message
| | ...
| | |
| | | A close call between two planes at O'Hare Airport
this
| | | summer was closer than originally reported.
| | |
| | | The National Transportation Safety Board said
Tuesday
| that
| | | an Atlas Air cargo plane and a United Airlines jet
| came
| | | within 35 feet of colliding on July 23 -- not 300
feet
| as
| | | reported back in July by the Federal Aviation
| | Administration.
| | |
| | | The incident was one of the most serious in a
string
| of
| | | runway incursions at O'Hare this year.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
|
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ntsb15.article
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.

What was wrong with my question? It was grammatically correct and
succinct.... WTF is your problem and who asked you to chime in anyway? Back
in your cage monkey.


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
What was wrong with my question?

Other than it didn'tm in any way, address his actual remarks...?

It was grammatically correct and succinct....

It had no relation to what he said. IOW, it was a stream of words with no
bearing to the point he made.

WTF is your problem and who asked you to chime in anyway?

If you don't want reponses from the public, post to private email.

As I said, pay a bit more attention to your reading compre

Back in your cage monkey.

Head out of your ass, SFB. I've got better things to do than give you
lessons that you should have picked up in elementary school.



"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:05:58 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
.. .
Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)

As I recall, according to the NTSB one of the contributing factors was
a lack of English language skills and quite likely not knowing they
should have declared a urgent fuel situation before it became an
emergency situation before it became a messy situation.





"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com