filing with DUATS

Jeff wrote:
ya this started happening to me a few weeks ago, so now after I file on duats, I
select review flight plan, if its not there I just call FSS and file

Ditch wrote:


Anyone experiencing problems with this? Aside from the ADIZ and TFR crap.
I filed an IFR from LVK to SAC yesterday via duats and the clearance never came
available. The tower told me that only about half of the flight plans filed via
DUATS come up.
I found it strange. Back in 1999 when I was flying a C-340 for a guy, 80% of my
IFR plans were filed via DUATS and never had a problem.
I am wondering if this is something new or if I have just been lucky in the
past.

-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*



I wonder if the DUATS providers "upgraded" their servers to Windows
NT... :-(


Matt

looks like they use
Server Type: Netscape-FastTrack/3.01


"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote:

Jeff wrote:
ya this started happening to me a few weeks ago, so now after I file on duats, I
select review flight plan, if its not there I just call FSS and file

Ditch wrote:


Anyone experiencing problems with this? Aside from the ADIZ and TFR crap.
I filed an IFR from LVK to SAC yesterday via duats and the clearance never came
available. The tower told me that only about half of the flight plans filed via
DUATS come up.
I found it strange. Back in 1999 when I was flying a C-340 for a guy, 80% of my
IFR plans were filed via DUATS and never had a problem.
I am wondering if this is something new or if I have just been lucky in the
past.

-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*



I wonder if the DUATS providers "upgraded" their servers to Windows
NT... :-(

Matt

same here the first time it happened to me. since then I always check to make sure
it took, and so far it hasnt.

what I am thinking is since I am in las vegas, and with the alert levels changing,
they made our area one of the ones you cant file via duats and only by calling
FSS.

I did notice that on new years eve when I flew back into vegas from phoenix that
LAS approach gave me a squak code that seemed different. Usually I dont change
x-ponder codes but they gave me something like 1051

Ditch wrote:

I dont think they are getting lost, but they are just not being saved to the
system.
after you file next time, choose the review flight plan and see if its there.

I'll do that...thanks. I just found it weird what the tower told me.

-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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Blaming all the evils in the world on Bill Gates is becoming passé. If DUATS
is having problems nowadays it is unquestionably the fault of the Bush
administration or, if you are a Republican, on "the Democrats" or
"terrorism." sigh It is so hard to keep up on the list of wicked people
these days. :-)

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"C J Campbell" wrote:

"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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| I wonder if the DUATS providers "upgraded" their servers to Windows
| NT... :-(

Blaming all the evils in the world on Bill Gates is becoming passé. If DUATS
is having problems nowadays it is unquestionably the fault of the Bush
administration or, if you are a Republican, on "the Democrats" or
"terrorism." sigh It is so hard to keep up on the list of wicked people
these days. :-)

Get a clue, man. The scapecoat d'jour is Illegal Aliens. Oh, wait,
we're legalizing them now, I forgot. The French? Maybe we could blame
it on the French :-)

I have noticed a related problem... that seems to be a bug in flight
plan retrieval.

On a couple of occasions during the last few months, I've wanted to
(slightly) modify a DUATS-filed IFR flight plan but could not retrieve
my filed plan in DUATS. Usually, this was one of a two flight plans I
filed for a training flight, and the desired modifications didn't
prevent my flight. In several instances I could retrieve only one of
the two plans I filed. However, when later requesting my clearances,
all the plans I thought I'd filed were available.

So, I've concluded the problem is the the flight plan retrieval
function in DUATS, possibly related to timing issues. I've found that
just because you can't retrieve a flight plan in DUATS, doesn't mean
it's not in the system.

I fly out of SQL and have not yet had DUATS lose any of my filed
plans...

-tod

In article , Jeff
wrote:

I dont think they are getting lost, but they are just not being saved to the
system.
after you file next time, choose the review flight plan and see if its there.

Ditch wrote:

Anyone experiencing problems with this? Aside from the ADIZ and TFR crap.
I filed an IFR from LVK to SAC yesterday via duats and the clearance never
came
available. The tower told me that only about half of the flight plans filed
via
DUATS come up.
I found it strange. Back in 1999 when I was flying a C-340 for a guy, 80%
of my
IFR plans were filed via DUATS and never had a problem.
I am wondering if this is something new or if I have just been lucky in the
past.

-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

C J Campbell wrote:
"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
...
|
|
|
| I wonder if the DUATS providers "upgraded" their servers to Windows
| NT... :-(

Blaming all the evils in the world on Bill Gates is becoming passé. If DUATS
is having problems nowadays it is unquestionably the fault of the Bush
administration or, if you are a Republican, on "the Democrats" or
"terrorism." sigh It is so hard to keep up on the list of wicked people
these days. :-)



I hardly blame all the worlds evils on Bill Gates. However, having used
RSX-11, VMS, a few variants of Unix and several versions of Windows
(3.0, 3.1, 3.11, NT, 95, 98, Me, 2000, etc.), I can say with no fear of
contradiction that Windows is the least reliable OS family by a long
shot. It isn't even close. I've never had a windows machine that would
run continuously for even one month without a hang or crash. We had VMS
systems that ran for years with no unscheduled outages.


Matt

I fly out of LVK, rarely had the problem. I usually file the night before
for an early morning flight. If you file and go immediately, it may not have
made it to the system. IIRC, usually DUATs will submit to the facility an
hour or so before the departure time even if you put in the request hours
before that.

"Ditch" wrote in message
...
Anyone experiencing problems with this? Aside from the ADIZ and TFR crap.
I filed an IFR from LVK to SAC yesterday via duats and the clearance never
came
available. The tower told me that only about half of the flight plans
filed via
DUATS come up.
I found it strange. Back in 1999 when I was flying a C-340 for a guy, 80%
of my
IFR plans were filed via DUATS and never had a problem.
I am wondering if this is something new or if I have just been lucky in
the
past.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or
North
American*

I fly out of SQL and have not yet had DUATS lose any of my filed
plans...

Maybe it is something with LVK. Pretty weird...


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

has anyone here seen the movie "the second civil war"
it started with illegal's also. Pretty funny movie.

Roy Smith wrote:

In article ,
"C J Campbell" wrote:

"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
...
|
|
|
| I wonder if the DUATS providers "upgraded" their servers to Windows
| NT... :-(

Blaming all the evils in the world on Bill Gates is becoming passé. If DUATS
is having problems nowadays it is unquestionably the fault of the Bush
administration or, if you are a Republican, on "the Democrats" or
"terrorism." sigh It is so hard to keep up on the list of wicked people
these days. :-)

Get a clue, man. The scapecoat d'jour is Illegal Aliens. Oh, wait,
we're legalizing them now, I forgot. The French? Maybe we could blame
it on the French :-)