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Jon Johanson stranded in Antartica....
Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his
RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../adventurer_dc |
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"John Ammeter" wrote in message
... Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../adventurer_dc The story even made to Uber-geek site www.slashdot.org Rob |
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On behalf of all normal Kiwi's . I appologise for our sick burocratic
politcaly correct government *******s (Bitches) Cam.......... "John Ammeter" wrote in message ... Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...=10&u=/nm/2003 1210/od_nm/adventurer_dc |
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You can offer all apologies all you want but only for yourself. Don't talk
for me. I feel that he took a chance for glory, self promotion, stupidity, or whatever and ended up with his tit caught in the wringer. It is not up to me and my tax dollars to bail his sorry ass out of the jamb he inflected on himself. This goes for all those fools that climb mountains, trek through caves, or go exploring in the woods relying on a GPS with 1/2 dead batteries to guide them along. They should all just be left to their own devices and hopefully receive a Darwin Award for their efforts. "Cam" wrote in message ... On behalf of all normal Kiwi's . I appologise for our sick burocratic politcaly correct government *******s (Bitches) Cam.......... "John Ammeter" wrote in message ... Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...=10&u=/nm/2003 1210/od_nm/adventurer_dc |
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"Jimmy Galvin" wrote in
: You can offer all apologies all you want but only for yourself. Don't talk for me. I feel that he took a chance for glory, self promotion, stupidity, or whatever and ended up with his tit caught in the wringer. It is not up to me and my tax dollars to bail his sorry ass out of the jamb he inflected on himself. This goes for all those fools that climb mountains, trek through caves, or go exploring in the woods relying on a GPS with 1/2 dead batteries to guide them along. They should all just be left to their own devices and hopefully receive a Darwin Award for their efforts. Yeah, but to not even sell the guy fuel is bad form...... -- ET "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams |
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While 80 gallons or so of fuel may not be much...we must ask a few things.... Can the base really spare it? (though I suspect that they could.....) Secondly......while the fuel may only be a buck or 2 a gallon....its REAL cost down in Antartica is probably ALOT more....wouldnt surprise me if its 10 to 50 times more in real cost (those Antartic cargo lifts dont come cheap).....just as a gallon of water is free but once you get it into orbit its LITERALLY worth about 80,000 dollars (NASA should start sending up midgets to save costs) My main question would be....he had to know that there was a FAIR chance he would have to turn around and refuel....but did he even BOTHER to check with officials at various bases if he could sleep there or get fuel and food if he needed to? If he didnt EVEN do that I say screw em... maybe give him the fuel at its real cost if they can spare it....but give him a 10 to 20k $ "stupidity/arrogance" charge if he never bothered to ask before he took off... take care Blll |
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"BllFs6" wrote in message
... While 80 gallons or so of fuel may not be much...we must ask a few things.... snip That must have been SOME headwind to burn an extra 80 gallons. . . Rich S. |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:34:57 GMT, ET wrote:
"Jimmy Galvin" wrote in : You can offer all apologies all you want but only for yourself. Don't talk for me. I feel that he took a chance for glory, self promotion, stupidity, or whatever and ended up with his tit caught in the wringer. It is not up to me and my tax dollars to bail his sorry ass out of the jamb he inflected on himself.... Yeah, but to not even sell the guy fuel is bad form...... AVweb quotes an EAA staffer in saying that they don't even stock avgas down there. What's needed is space on a cargo plane for hauling it down there, and I suspect there's more too it than just throwing some jerry cans on a pallet. Even so, it sounds like the NSF is being its old hidebound self. There's a good book out, written by an ex-Navy pilot who used be one of the Hercules pilots down the _Flying Upside Down_, by Mark A. Hinebaugh. He really makes the NSF (the agency in charge of US operations in Antarctica) sound like a bunch of idiots. Ron Wanttaja |
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AVweb quotes an EAA staffer in saying that they don't even stock avgas down there. What's needed is space on a cargo plane for hauling it down there, and I suspect there's more too it than just throwing some jerry cans on a pallet. Even so, it sounds like the NSF is being its old hidebound self. There's a good book out, written by an ex-Navy pilot who used be one of the Hercules pilots down the _Flying Upside Down_, by Mark A. Hinebaugh. He really makes the NSF (the agency in charge of US operations in Antarctica) sound like a bunch of idiots. Ron Wanttaja They are. I worked on this problem with the Governor of Nevada last week and many retired politicians that I know. They applied a lot of pressure but really got nowhere. I am out of town right now but I heard from Jarvis that Jon got out of there by getting fuel from an English woman on an Around the world flight who was on the continent at the same time. Anyone know the details? Bill |
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He was not welcome in 1989 and apparently things have not changed. If he
inquired 1st he probably would have been denied permission to land. So he went on his merry way figuring that if he got in trouble he would just force himself on them. He is getting the hospitality he deserves. They should just push his plane off the strip and let it become another "Glacier Gal". "ET" wrote in message ... "Jimmy Galvin" wrote in : You can offer all apologies all you want but only for yourself. Don't talk for me. I feel that he took a chance for glory, self promotion, stupidity, or whatever and ended up with his tit caught in the wringer. It is not up to me and my tax dollars to bail his sorry ass out of the jamb he inflected on himself. This goes for all those fools that climb mountains, trek through caves, or go exploring in the woods relying on a GPS with 1/2 dead batteries to guide them along. They should all just be left to their own devices and hopefully receive a Darwin Award for their efforts. Yeah, but to not even sell the guy fuel is bad form...... -- ET "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams |
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