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Real glider or RC model?
On Jan 15, 2:19*pm, "Paul Remde" wrote:
While I haven't had much time for modeling in recent years - I don't think lower cost than the "real thing" is the main reason modelers do it. *I think they enjoy building the models. *If I had time I would enjoy building glider models when I can't be flying. *We have long months of poor soaring weather here in MN this time of year. * *Just a thought. I agree. I built and flew R/C gliders prior to trying "full scale". I built from plans, cutting my own foam cores and then vacuum bagging with fiberglass and carbon fiber. A very satisfying at home workshop activity. Then seeing your "creation" fly is quite a thrill (especially if it flies well). Some day I will likely return to R/C. But for now full scale is just too much of a kick to give up. ;-) Btw, the toughest part for me in transitioning from R/C to full scale was learning how to use my feet. Feet aren't required for R/C. For related reasons, I refuse to use a PC glider flight simulator without foot pedals. Otherwise one can develop unsafe habits. Regards, -Doug |
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On Jan 15, 5:08*pm, Doug Hoffman wrote:
On Jan 15, 2:19*pm, "Paul Remde" wrote: While I haven't had much time for modeling in recent years - I don't think lower cost than the "real thing" is the main reason modelers do it. *I think they enjoy building the models. *If I had time I would enjoy building glider models when I can't be flying. *We have long months of poor soaring weather here in MN this time of year. * *Just a thought. I agree. *I built and flew R/C gliders prior to trying "full scale". 40 some years ago I had the same experience with a friend. He was an excellent RC pilot. I was an power CFI. I honestly believe that if the rudder had been on his left thumb he would have needed no dual at all. So we swapped. I gave him free dual and he let me use his pattern RC plane to learn on. It was fun all around. Didn't break anything either. Dennis B btw, I never did get real good with my left thumb. I built from plans, cutting my own foam cores and then vacuum bagging with fiberglass and carbon fiber. *A very satisfying at home workshop activity. *Then seeing your "creation" fly is quite a thrill (especially if it flies well). *Some day I will likely return to R/C. But for now full scale is just too much of a kick to give up. *;-) Btw, the toughest part for me in transitioning from R/C to full scale was learning how to use my feet. *Feet aren't required for R/C. *For related reasons, I refuse to use a PC glider flight simulator without foot pedals. *Otherwise one can develop unsafe habits. Regards, -Doug |
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On Jan 15, 1:08*pm, tstock wrote:
Honestly I never understood why anyone would do this. *R/C Modelers always claim they "can't afford to fly the real thing" so they settle for models, but they spend more in modeling than it costs to fly real gliders. I spent about $3000.00 flying r/c helicopters... but it only cost me $2500.00 to learn to fly real gliders, and my check ride should be any time now And I bet that 1/2 scale glider costs more than a Ka6. -tom I do both and can attest they both have their place. Big scale sailplanes are very social for one. They demand spotters, tow pilots, and pilots all working together. I have offered a r/c buddy a sailplane ride numerous times and have made the argument that it is cheaper than flying his 1/4 to 1/2 scale models. However he refuses to even go because he knows he will love it but also realizes he does not possess the skill set to make a good pilot. /Adam (1/4 scale Ka-8 and a 1/4 scale CAP on the building board, Jantar in the barn) |
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On Jan 15, 1:27*pm, Richard wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:19*pm, db_sonic wrote: On Jan 15, 11:19*am, "Paul Remde" wrote: Hi Tom, While I haven't had much time for modeling in recent years - I don't think lower cost than the "real thing" is the main reason modelers do it. *I think they enjoy building the models. *If I had time I would enjoy building glider models when I can't be flying. *We have long months of poor soaring weather here in MN this time of year. * *Just a thought. Paul Remde Agree with Paul here on why people do this. *There is a lot of satisfaction in starting with just some basic components and building something that looks fantastic and flies, in a lot of cases, quite well. *And the flying itself is extremely challenging. *As challenging as you want to make it where you can make planes do things full size can only dream of. *Check this **** out. *One of my buddies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYCZcZEi8rI DG Airparts holds a contest every summer in Montague for RC Gliders, Siskiyou County Airport. *Many 50 and 100k model flights. http://www.xcsoaring.com/index.htm Richardwww.craggyaero.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi Richard, I attended the first one Dean held back in 2003? I think it was, and we probably met. I always meant to go back and do both full size and model aerotow there at Montague. Good to hear they are still holding the contest. I'll have to see if I can finish that EMS DG808. Darren |
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On Jan 15, 6:37*pm, db_sonic wrote:
On Jan 15, 1:27*pm, Richard wrote: On Jan 15, 12:19*pm, db_sonic wrote: On Jan 15, 11:19*am, "Paul Remde" wrote: Hi Tom, While I haven't had much time for modeling in recent years - I don't think lower cost than the "real thing" is the main reason modelers do it. *I think they enjoy building the models. *If I had time I would enjoy building glider models when I can't be flying. *We have long months of poor soaring weather here in MN this time of year. * *Just a thought. Paul Remde Agree with Paul here on why people do this. *There is a lot of satisfaction in starting with just some basic components and building something that looks fantastic and flies, in a lot of cases, quite well. *And the flying itself is extremely challenging. *As challenging as you want to make it where you can make planes do things full size can only dream of. *Check this **** out. *One of my buddies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYCZcZEi8rI DG Airparts holds a contest every summer in Montague for RC Gliders, Siskiyou County Airport. *Many 50 and 100k model flights. http://www.xcsoaring.com/index.htm Richardwww.craggyaero.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi Richard, I attended the first one Dean held back in 2003? I think it was, and we probably met. I always meant to go back and do both full size and model aerotow there at Montague. Good to hear they are still holding the contest. *I'll have to see if I can finish that EMS DG808. Darren- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The first XC Soaring contest at Montague was 1998 and has been growing ever since. I was one of the 100K R/C pilots. Over the years the emphasis has moved from distance to speed. Just like in the full- scale world. I've had many flights over 5 hours with my XC racer, but now that speed is the task I expect that most flights will be under 1 hour on task for the 15-25 miles course. Check out www.xcsoaring.com for the history and retails. |
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On Jan 15, 10:11*pm, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:37*pm, db_sonic wrote: On Jan 15, 1:27*pm, Richard wrote: On Jan 15, 12:19*pm, db_sonic wrote: On Jan 15, 11:19*am, "Paul Remde" wrote: Hi Tom, While I haven't had much time for modeling in recent years - I don't think lower cost than the "real thing" is the main reason modelers do it. *I think they enjoy building the models. *If I had time I would enjoy building glider models when I can't be flying. *We have long months of poor soaring weather here in MN this time of year. * *Just a thought. Paul Remde Agree with Paul here on why people do this. *There is a lot of satisfaction in starting with just some basic components and building something that looks fantastic and flies, in a lot of cases, quite well. *And the flying itself is extremely challenging. *As challenging as you want to make it where you can make planes do things full size can only dream of. *Check this **** out. *One of my buddies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYCZcZEi8rI DG Airparts holds a contest every summer in Montague for RC Gliders, Siskiyou County Airport. *Many 50 and 100k model flights. http://www.xcsoaring.com/index.htm Richardwww.craggyaero.com-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi Richard, I attended the first one Dean held back in 2003? I think it was, and we probably met. I always meant to go back and do both full size and model aerotow there at Montague. Good to hear they are still holding the contest. *I'll have to see if I can finish that EMS DG808. Darren- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The first XC Soaring contest at Montague was 1998 and has been growing ever since. *I was one of the 100K R/C pilots. *Over the years the emphasis has moved from distance to speed. *Just like in the full- scale world. *I've had many flights over 5 hours with my XC racer, but now that speed is the task I expect that most flights will be under 1 hour on task for the 15-25 miles course. Check outwww.xcsoaring.comfor the history and retails.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oops, meant to say details but Dean also has some retails on the page. |
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Well, the conclusion I finally came to was that pilots love flying in planes, and r/c modelers love watching planes fly. I've been r/c flying for about 25 years, and after flying the real thing I found r/c got pretty boring and sold almost everything... except for one... my FPV plane. -tom |
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Not a glider, but an R/C teddy bear flying an R/C aircraft: See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDuG...layer_embedded Cool, or what? Chris N. |
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On Jan 15, 10:11*pm, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:37*pm, db_sonic wrote: On Jan 15, 1:27*pm, Richard wrote: On Jan 15, 12:19*pm, db_sonic wrote: On Jan 15, 11:19*am, "Paul Remde" wrote: Hi Tom, While I haven't had much time for modeling in recent years - I don't think lower cost than the "real thing" is the main reason modelers do it. *I think they enjoy building the models. *If I had time I would enjoy building glider models when I can't be flying. *We have long months of poor soaring weather here in MN this time of year. * *Just a thought. Paul Remde Agree with Paul here on why people do this. *There is a lot of satisfaction in starting with just some basic components and building something that looks fantastic and flies, in a lot of cases, quite well. *And the flying itself is extremely challenging. *As challenging as you want to make it where you can make planes do things full size can only dream of. *Check this **** out. *One of my buddies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYCZcZEi8rI DG Airparts holds a contest every summer in Montague for RC Gliders, Siskiyou County Airport. *Many 50 and 100k model flights. http://www.xcsoaring.com/index.htm Richardwww.craggyaero.com-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi Richard, I attended the first one Dean held back in 2003? I think it was, and we probably met. I always meant to go back and do both full size and model aerotow there at Montague. Good to hear they are still holding the contest. *I'll have to see if I can finish that EMS DG808. Darren- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The first XC Soaring contest at Montague was 1998 and has been growing ever since. *I was one of the 100K R/C pilots. *Over the years the emphasis has moved from distance to speed. *Just like in the full- scale world. *I've had many flights over 5 hours with my XC racer, but now that speed is the task I expect that most flights will be under 1 hour on task for the 15-25 miles course. Check outwww.xcsoaring.comfor the history and retails.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I was referring to the Scale Aerotow they used to have, but I guess they dont hold it anymore. |
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:13:16 -0800 (PST), db_sonic
wrote: Ah, I was referring to the Scale Aerotow they used to have, but I guess they dont hold it anymore. How about a real scale aerotow? A 1:2 glider model behind a real-life tow plane... But of course these are only rumours. |
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