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Old March 29th 17, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Throttling back to 400km today
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Old March 29th 17, 08:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 1:40:38 PM UTC-5, vontresc wrote:

Can someone "tweak" the tracker page to only show one tracker per contestant? It is difficult to make sense out of who is actually leading while following along on the glideport.aero tracking page.

Peter


Sorry, Peter. Even there it is not "real time", so you can't see who is actually out front. Select someone's trace, hover over another and see where the other trace's barogram ends relative to the one you selected. Sometimes you can determine who you "think" is in the lead. Much better than actually working... :-)
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Old March 29th 17, 08:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Sorry, Peter. Even there it is not "real time", so you can't see who is actually out front. Select someone's trace, hover over another and see where the other trace's barogram ends relative to the one you selected. Sometimes you can determine who you "think" is in the lead. Much better than actually working... :-)


It's definitely better than nothing, but with update intervals in the 5-15 minute range, it really isn't all that useful. Hard to get excited about it when you really don't know who is leading and how far behind the others are. It's one thing to be watching delayed real time data and completely another to be watching data that has has large (5-15 minutes) gaps in it.

I think the Benalla WGC coverage set the bar pretty high in this regard.

They are doing a great job with video's and interviews, etc.
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Old March 29th 17, 09:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 12:52:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Sorry, Peter. Even there it is not "real time", so you can't see who is actually out front. Select someone's trace, hover over another and see where the other trace's barogram ends relative to the one you selected. Sometimes you can determine who you "think" is in the lead. Much better than actually working... :-)


It's definitely better than nothing, but with update intervals in the 5-15 minute range, it really isn't all that useful. Hard to get excited about it when you really don't know who is leading and how far behind the others are. It's one thing to be watching delayed real time data and completely another to be watching data that has has large (5-15 minutes) gaps in it.

I think the Benalla WGC coverage set the bar pretty high in this regard.

They are doing a great job with video's and interviews, etc.


As far as I know this is the best "live coverage" of any US competition to date. Congratulations on that!
Most competitions use LiveTrack24 for tracking, which views nicely in 3D. The Benalla WGC was by no means the first to do that.
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Old March 29th 17, 11:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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If you will hit the "play" button in the map screen the action is much easier to understand. The movement will be delayed by five minuites but it becomes a fluid viewer experience rather than a static one.

Granted it's not like watching NASCAR but we've come a long ways since I started in this sport in 2009!

Lane
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Old March 29th 17, 11:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 5:08:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
If you will hit the "play" button in the map screen the action is much easier to understand. The movement will be delayed by five minuites but it becomes a fluid viewer experience rather than a static one.

Granted it's not like watching NASCAR but we've come a long ways since I started in this sport in 2009!

Lane


Yeah, that's not a bad way to do it, but wasn't the whole point of the SGP to be able to follow along in real time, and make it more spectator friendly???
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Old March 29th 17, 11:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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But making it real time for real would make it even more biased to those super rich pilots like Wilbur who have around 15 ground advisors, one at each turnpoint and others in the gaps between, telling him just where to go to hit the best thermals. They would also all be told from base by the master tactician when a competitor had got the best thermal of the day and send their guy to catch it too.
So a delay is necessary to give the rest a chance against the pilot with the biggest wallet (even though he thinks he knows it is some other personal attribute that is in the gigantism class).
Really. Honest. Absolutely all true. Well it is nearly 4/1 ain't it?




On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
SGP USA begins today at Seminole Lake Gliderport near Orlando, Florida.

Website: www.sgp.aero/usa2017

Live tracking: http://www.sgp.aero/usa2017/race-cov...ontestID=28476

Facebook: @FAISailplaneGrandPrixUSA

Yesterday's practice race results: http://www.sgp.aero/usa2017/results-...ontestID=28476


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Old March 30th 17, 01:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 5:08:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
If you will hit the "play" button in the map screen the action is much easier to understand. The movement will be delayed by five minuites but it becomes a fluid viewer experience rather than a static one.

Granted it's not like watching NASCAR but we've come a long ways since I started in this sport in 2009!

Lane


Yes, it is fascinating to watch someone's whole flight including the landing pattern and where the glider stopped at Seminole after roll out.

BTW, is there any "User Manual" for this tracking system web page which would help us understand better and faster all the tools and symbols?

Tom BravoMike
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Old March 30th 17, 10:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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There are two Soaring Magazine articles from a couple of years ago. I'm not sure of months. One was written by myself and one by Pedja. If you log in to GlidePort.aero there is an info tab that describes instrument functions.

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Old March 30th 17, 02:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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FAI SGP USA Orlando Task 4 Report

Task 4 featured continued excellent soaring conditions here in sunny Florida (6 knots to 6k predicted at the start, higher later in the day). There was a small concern for high cirrus, so our CD John Godfrey throttled back the 400 km โ€œTask Aโ€ to a more moderate โ€œsprintโ€ racing task of 270 km. The racing task was SW to Wauchulla, then E to Sebring, and then back N to the SGP southern steering turn and ultimately across the finish line directly overhead the Seminole Lake Gliderport. During the first leg, the gaggle stayed somewhat together but separated vertically via numerous available โ€œlinesโ€ in the ample cumulus, wisps, etc. Once near Wauchulla (TP1) it became apparent that another large hole blocked Sebring (TP 2). The leaders (7T, 98, 711) tried to go direct by hitting small wisps in the blue, but XG deviated south (right) 30-40 degree and ran the stronger clouds along the edge of the hole. That deviation turned out to be the correct move. Once the leaders got around Sebring (20 km out in the blue), the hole continued for another 30 km. Fortunately, the lift was predictably strong upon re-connecting to the well-formed cumulus on the N edge of the Sebring hole. 7T found 6 knots (for 3500 ft to 7k) here and consolidated 2nd place. But, by this point, XG had a 15 km lead on the run N to the finish. M6 (Sergei Morozov, Canada) was in third place over the finish line but was slightly low (900 ft finish height) and that penalty (38 seconds) dropped him off the podium to 5th place. Jim Lee (1C) (fourth over the line) moved into third place to round out the podium.

Day 4 winners interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pbLNfxdNWw

Day 4 results: http://www.sgp.aero/usa2017/results-...ontestID=28476

To see the task details: click "show details" on the daily results page

Flight logs: Click view on right edge of pilot score, then IGC log tab

Overall results: http://www.sgp.aero/usa2017/results-sgp/results.aspx

FAI SGP USA Website: http://www.sgp.aero/usa2017.aspx

FAI SGP USA YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/faisailplanegp

FAI SGP USA Flickr photos: http://www.sgp.aero/usa2017/race-cov...photos.aspxโ€ฆ

FAI SGP USA Facebook page: @FAISailplaneGrandPrixUSA
 




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