will the US military power dominate the world

Chad Irby wrote:
In article , "IO"
wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree
using one example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in
Germany, France, Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher*

Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Except that doesn't really follow. All that really means is that the
European governments have more of your money.

Europeans car uses less fuel than american ones. Medium european car
engine=1400cc medium usa car engine=2000 cc= a lot of more fuel.
Europeans do less kilometers per year than an americans.

So they have a lower standard of living when it comes to personal
transportation.

No idiot the distances in Europe are much less than USA. We also have an
efficient human transportation by railway (HIGH speed train in france spain
italy germany...). USA has diesel loco's europeans electric ones...

In article , "IO"
wrote:

USA medium family is strangled by debts. Augmented fixed costs (university
for the childrens, the house, credit card....) are strangling american
families.

Note that of the three things you mention, two of them are European
problems, too. Unless Europeans don't live in houses or use credit
cards.

And if you're looking for a university education, it's not that
expensive here (unless you go somewhere like Harvard or Yale). Which is
part of the reason we get so many Europeans here in our schools...

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

How much you spend every year for the sanitaty insurance? More or less than
you spend for your house?

Note that of the three things you mention, two of them are European
problems, too. Unless Europeans don't live in houses or use credit
cards.

And if you're looking for a university education, it's not that
expensive here (unless you go somewhere like Harvard or Yale). Which
is part of the reason we get so many Europeans here in our schools...

*ROTFL* For lobotomy? *ROTFL*

Unless Europeans don't live in houses or use credit cards.

lol of course, you know what, i live in cave and use candle during night. to
go to my job I use a horse.....

comme on Chad, wake up and open your eyes to see the real world

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Franck

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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:22:27 +0200, "Emmanuel Gustin"
wrote:

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
...

example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in Germany, France,
Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher* than the average fuel prices
in
the US. Unless you can show me that the average EU citizen makes 3-4 times
more
than the average US citizen, you have a significant negative impact on
standard
of living.

It's a different balance, as the price difference in fuel is mostly
because of taxes, and therefore returns in the form of public
services. So fuel is more expensive, but e.g. health care is
cheaper and universal. It's all a matter of priorities. Fewer
people here can afford to drive a big SUV, but who really
needs one?

Western Europe is a more equalised society. Belgians pay more
taxes and have leass ready money to spend than Americans,
but in Belgium 4% of people lives below the povery line, in
the USA 12.7% (CIA figures). Belgians have a slightly longer
life expectancy than Americans, a lower infant mortality rate
at birth, and better education. The UN 'quality of life' ranking
puts Belgium just ahead of the USA (in 6th and 7th place), which
means that, all factors considered, there is little difference; its
more a choice of which factors to emphasize in public policy.

"Better education"? I don't recall a lot of Belgians winning the
latest round of Nobel Prized in physics, medicine, et al. Also note
that the US definition of the poverty rate is middle class in other
countries.

Al Minyard

Io, not almost but some of them sure.

I think they are all here lol

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Franck

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Franck wrote:
Also note
that the US definition of the poverty rate is middle class in other
countries.

incredible, this man is incredible.

Al did you win a Nobel...no i'm sure not, it's evident

As almost americans he had not seen the rest of the world and is sure that
chinese don't see very well because they have small eyes and other things of
this type

Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Not from where I am sitting.

The productive all across europe get ripped off to buy votes from the idle
and indolent, leaving them with little for their one well being.

One cannot have a 'better standard of life' when the state is confiscating
3/4s of ones lifetime earnings via direct and indirect taxation.

The only people to have a 'better standard of life' are those who spend
their entire existence suckling at the public teat.


greg

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western Europe handles
it, as their population ages even more, with much less younger people to help
pay into the system, in proportion to those who are retired and recieving the
benefits of such a social program.

Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

Ron wrote:
Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Not from where I am sitting.

The productive all across europe get ripped off to buy votes from
the idle and indolent, leaving them with little for their one well
being.

One cannot have a 'better standard of life' when the state is
confiscating 3/4s of ones lifetime earnings via direct and indirect
taxation.

The only people to have a 'better standard of life' are those who
spend
their entire existence suckling at the public teat.


greg

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western
Europe handles it, as their population ages even more, with much less
younger people to help pay into the system, in proportion to those
who are retired and recieving the benefits of such a social program.

This is valid without considering the immigrants, also in the United States
WASP (the part of the US population more paragonable to the europeans)
people is becoming older... But the other parts of population are younger...

P.S. what about racial integration?