Another difference between the US and Canada.

I had a friend ask me today how I'd cancel a flight plane that I had
never activated.

I gave the usual answer...If I never activated it, I don't need to
cancel it. If I haven't activated it past the closing time it gets
dropped. Canceling one that has been activated and flown is
*usually* not a problem either unless landing at an airport with the
tower closed. Then it's a call to FSS.

It appears that one of the locals had filed a flight plan from
Michigan to Ontario for this morning and another for the trip home.
While getting ready to leave, his friend called and said they weren't
going to make it. So, not having activated his plan he went home.

As I understand it, he received a call this afternoon wondering where
he was. They were out looking for him in Canada.

It seems as in Canada they treat a filed IFR flight plan *similar* to
one that is activated. IF you don't go, remember to cancel, or they
will send some one out to look for you.

This would never come up in most parts of the country, but with
bordering states there are many border crossing flights.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

Roger Halstead wrote:

It seems as in Canada they treat a filed IFR flight plan *similar* to
one that is activated. IF you don't go, remember to cancel, or they
will send some one out to look for you.

Hypothetically, if he was also given a clearance over the phone along
with a void time, isn't he presumed to have departed? Then it becomes a
lost comm situation.

Tim

I have had the same thing happen in the US, albeit a long time ago. The FSS
just assumed that I had departed as planned.

Bob Gardner

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
...

I had a friend ask me today how I'd cancel a flight plane that I had
never activated.

I gave the usual answer...If I never activated it, I don't need to
cancel it. If I haven't activated it past the closing time it gets
dropped. Canceling one that has been activated and flown is
*usually* not a problem either unless landing at an airport with the
tower closed. Then it's a call to FSS.

It appears that one of the locals had filed a flight plan from
Michigan to Ontario for this morning and another for the trip home.
While getting ready to leave, his friend called and said they weren't
going to make it. So, not having activated his plan he went home.

As I understand it, he received a call this afternoon wondering where
he was. They were out looking for him in Canada.

It seems as in Canada they treat a filed IFR flight plan *similar* to
one that is activated. IF you don't go, remember to cancel, or they
will send some one out to look for you.

This would never come up in most parts of the country, but with
bordering states there are many border crossing flights.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:dOx_a.138209$Ho3.17031@sccrnsc03...

I have had the same thing happen in the US, albeit a long time ago. The
FSS
just assumed that I had departed as planned.


They certainly shouldn't do that with an IFR flight plan.

Bob Gardner wrote:

As I understand it, he received a call this afternoon wondering where
he was. They were out looking for him in Canada.

It seems as in Canada they treat a filed IFR flight plan *similar* to
one that is activated. IF you don't go, remember to cancel, or they
will send some one out to look for you.

How would the Canadians even know he had filed? Until he takes off the
next sectors down the line don't have a clue he has even filed.

"Newps" wrote in message
et...

How would the Canadians even know he had filed? Until he takes off the
next sectors down the line don't have a clue he has even filed.


He filed a return trip.

Roger Halstead writes:

It seems as in Canada they treat a filed IFR flight plan *similar*
to one that is activated. IF you don't go, remember to cancel, or
they will send some one out to look for you.

That applies to Canadian VFR flight plans as well -- they are opened
automatically unless you cancel them.


All the best,


David

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