153A aviator question

Hello

I am a 32 year old private fixed wing pilot. An army recruiter
promised to get me into Fort Rucker if I joined. Here is the problem -
after the boot camp I will still be an E3, to go to WOFT one must be an
E5 or better. Question-- can they put in my contract that I am going to
Fort Rucker upon completing boot camp?

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An army recruiter promised

Be carefull..... be very very carefull.

I'd think the real question is where you're going after Fort Rucker.

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Hello

I am a 32 year old private fixed wing pilot. An army recruiter
promised to get me into Fort Rucker if I joined. Here is the problem -
after the boot camp I will still be an E3, to go to WOFT one must be an
E5 or better. Question-- can they put in my contract that I am going to
Fort Rucker upon completing boot camp?

I know a local pilot who got screwed on the same deal. He got out and
is working on his civilian rotor ticket. Recruiters will lie to you and
thats a fact. when it turns to **** they'll waffle and tell you it was
out of their hands.....
Ol shy & bashful

ok dude, everybody said there 2 cents worth...here's from somebody on the
inside...
First thing you have to do is find a recruiter that will work with you. You
can go through basic as an E-5. I had a high school to flight school guy in
my basic training class 13 years ago. It can be done. You CAN get in
straight to WOFT, but the trick is, as I said before, to find a recruiter
who will do what is neccessary, and it is a lot of paperwork. There ARE good
recruiters out there. There are also BAD ones...do some research, and don't
join unless you see what you want in your contract. If that involves you
walking out of the MEPS station, then do what's right for you. They can't do
**** to you until you swear in before you ship to basic. Don't let them BS
you.

....Good luck dude, and hopefully we'll see you during preflight one of these
days.

Brad



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Hello

I am a 32 year old private fixed wing pilot. An army recruiter
promised to get me into Fort Rucker if I joined. Here is the problem -
after the boot camp I will still be an E3, to go to WOFT one must be an
E5 or better. Question-- can they put in my contract that I am going to
Fort Rucker upon completing boot camp?

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Hello

I am a 32 year old private fixed wing pilot. An army recruiter
promised to get me into Fort Rucker if I joined. Here is the problem -
after the boot camp I will still be an E3, to go to WOFT one must be an
E5 or better. Question-- can they put in my contract that I am going to
Fort Rucker upon completing boot camp?


I am currently serving with the Army as a AH-64 Apache armt dawg. I am
28 and also a fixed wing pilot with 288 hours. I joined the Army to go
WOFT but had to go enlisted first because I need to be a US citizen and
I am doing the military naturalization thru Army service, long story
short, ask me anything you want to know about the Army, MOS 153A and
flight training program. Who told you that you have to be E5 for WOFT?
That is wrong info. 153A is the only MOS that doesn't require prior MOS
related experience. Why do you want to go to Fort Rucker? You can only
go to Fort Rucker for AIT if you are 15P or 15Q MOS series, that is
flight ops and air traffic controller. Furthermore, not to make you
upset or anything, WOFT age cut off is 32 at this point, but also the
recuiting website says if you didn't turn 33 by the time selection board
convenes you are good to go. You can still do an age waiver on the other
hand, provided you are an excellent soldier. Can they put Rucker in your
contract, if you are going for 15Q or 15P yes that will be in your
enlistment contract.

I spent 17 years in the military, 6 years Navy and 11 years Army. While
in the Navy I went to an Army aviation post to cross over services into
the WO flight program. I was told that I had to be an E5 minimum to
qualify (I was), as well as take a battery of tests on flight. The stack
of study books they gave me stood several feet tall lying on their side!
As far as the argument about recruiters - if you ask questions, they
will give you appropriate honest answers. If they do not, they are far
more liable than the average grunt. Recruiters are held to a much higher
standard than most of the rest of the enlisted, precisely because of the
generalized opinions like have been stated here. Misleading
prospective recruits can result in very severe penalties, including
article 15 bust. I was never mislead by recruiters, and in fact they
were very helpful in getting me what I wanted. It is in their best
interests to do so - you are more likely to be a happy camper and sign
up/stay in/ not be a problem in boot, etc. If you talk to a recruiter
and he intentionally misleads you, you have a number of options to
pursue, none of which will result in a pleasant ride for the recruiter.
And as far as salesmen; if it weren't for them, how would you buy
anything? There are unscrupulous people in every profession that exists,
but they are in the very tiny minority. You only hear about them,
unfortunately, because all the honest ones aren't "newsworthy".

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Hello

I am a 32 year old private fixed wing pilot. An army recruiter
promised to get me into Fort Rucker if I joined. Here is the problem -
after the boot camp I will still be an E3, to go to WOFT one must be an
E5 or better. Question-- can they put in my contract that I am going to
Fort Rucker upon completing boot camp?

Yes they can! But you most likely will have to sign for an exteneded
amount of time! if you are interested in flying email me?

I'm a rated helo pilot. I thought of signing up too, went to talk to a
recruiter last week and he told me I was too old to be in flying for
the National Guard. He said the cut-off age was TWENTY SIX. He said I
could be promised a job of working on helos though. I said no thanks,
I wanted to fly.