If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
The hourly rate on all of the planes in my flying club just went up
again (second time in a year). Archer II's just went up by another $10 per hour. Flying rates in the past 6 years have gone up by a factor of 1.6 times yet I am still making the same salary I was making in 2001. If this keeps up, I sure won't be flying much... I keep hearing claims that inflation is low, but fuel costs have doubled in the past 6 years, and housing prices have also nearly doubled (my house is appraising from almost twice what I paid for it in 2000), and consequently my property taxes have doubled. Seems to me that inflation is running pretty high since energy and housing are both pretty big portions of everyday expenses. Salaries are being held down by offshoring of jobs. We have lost close to 5,000 high tech jobs in Boise in the past 2 years alone, mostly due to offshoring by Micron and HP. With that going on, very few people in the high tech industry in this area have gotten raises in the past 5 or 6 years, and if they did, it was pretty small (a couple of percent one time). I don't see how GA is going to attract many new pilots if this trend continues... Dean |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
You know, pretty soon we are not going to make anything. What happens then.
We need to outlaw unions and get rid of the minumum wage. I dont know we need to do something different. wrote in message ups.com... The hourly rate on all of the planes in my flying club just went up again (second time in a year). Archer II's just went up by another $10 per hour. Flying rates in the past 6 years have gone up by a factor of 1.6 times yet I am still making the same salary I was making in 2001. If this keeps up, I sure won't be flying much... I keep hearing claims that inflation is low, but fuel costs have doubled in the past 6 years, and housing prices have also nearly doubled (my house is appraising from almost twice what I paid for it in 2000), and consequently my property taxes have doubled. Seems to me that inflation is running pretty high since energy and housing are both pretty big portions of everyday expenses. Salaries are being held down by offshoring of jobs. We have lost close to 5,000 high tech jobs in Boise in the past 2 years alone, mostly due to offshoring by Micron and HP. With that going on, very few people in the high tech industry in this area have gotten raises in the past 5 or 6 years, and if they did, it was pretty small (a couple of percent one time). I don't see how GA is going to attract many new pilots if this trend continues... Dean |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:29:40 -0700, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Salaries are being held down by offshoring of jobs. We have lost close to 5,000 high tech jobs in Boise in the past 2 years alone, mostly due to offshoring by Micron and HP. With that going on, very few people in the high tech industry in this area have gotten raises in the past 5 or 6 years, and if they did, it was pretty small (a couple of percent one time). I don't see how GA is going to attract many new pilots if this trend continues... You know, pretty soon we are not going to make anything. What happens then. We need to outlaw unions and get rid of the minumum wage. I dont know we need to do something different. Out of idle curiosity, I have to ask: How is eliminating the minimum wage going to allow more people to afford to fly? Ron Wanttaja |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
On Sep 20, 8:15 pm, wrote:
The hourly rate on all of the planes in my flying club just went up again (second time in a year). Archer II's just went up by another $10 per hour. Flying rates in the past 6 years have gone up by a factor of 1.6 times yet I am still making the same salary I was making in 2001. If this keeps up, I sure won't be flying much... I keep hearing claims that inflation is low, but fuel costs have doubled in the past 6 years, and housing prices have also nearly doubled (my house is appraising from almost twice what I paid for it in 2000), and consequently my property taxes have doubled. Seems to me that inflation is running pretty high since energy and housing are both pretty big portions of everyday expenses. Salaries are being held down by offshoring of jobs. We have lost close to 5,000 high tech jobs in Boise in the past 2 years alone, mostly due to offshoring by Micron and HP. With that going on, very few people in the high tech industry in this area have gotten raises in the past 5 or 6 years, and if they did, it was pretty small (a couple of percent one time). I don't see how GA is going to attract many new pilots if this trend continues... Dean Many people probably have frozen salaries on the west coast too. The wave of outsourcing will stop once the cost of doing business across the globe equalizes. It appears we are getting there. One can also view the middle between the coast as places for big companies to "out source" jobs out of their home locations. If Kansas can gather critical mass for aviation, Boise should make a claim in a specialized tech field. Don't be a dispensable auxiliary to HP and such.. Oh, yeah, how about making some better GA gears ? From better instruments to better LSAs that are like real airplanes :-). |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
Ron Wanttaja wrote in
: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:29:40 -0700, "Aluckyguess" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Salaries are being held down by offshoring of jobs. We have lost close to 5,000 high tech jobs in Boise in the past 2 years alone, mostly due to offshoring by Micron and HP. With that going on, very few people in the high tech industry in this area have gotten raises in the past 5 or 6 years, and if they did, it was pretty small (a couple of percent one time). I don't see how GA is going to attract many new pilots if this trend continues... You know, pretty soon we are not going to make anything. What happens then. We need to outlaw unions and get rid of the minumum wage. I dont know we need to do something different. Out of idle curiosity, I have to ask: How is eliminating the minimum wage going to allow more people to afford to fly? Well, more employers.. Bertie |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
On Sep 20, 11:33 pm, wrote:
On Sep 20, 8:15 pm, wrote: The hourly rate on all of the planes in my flying club just went up again (second time in a year). Archer II's just went up by another $10 per hour. Flying rates in the past 6 years have gone up by a factor of 1.6 times yet I am still making the same salary I was making in 2001. If this keeps up, I sure won't be flying much... I keep hearing claims that inflation is low, but fuel costs have doubled in the past 6 years, and housing prices have also nearly doubled (my house is appraising from almost twice what I paid for it in 2000), and consequently my property taxes have doubled. Seems to me that inflation is running pretty high since energy and housing are both pretty big portions of everyday expenses. Salaries are being held down by offshoring of jobs. We have lost close to 5,000 high tech jobs in Boise in the past 2 years alone, mostly due to offshoring by Micron and HP. With that going on, very few people in the high tech industry in this area have gotten raises in the past 5 or 6 years, and if they did, it was pretty small (a couple of percent one time). I don't see how GA is going to attract many new pilots if this trend continues... Dean Many people probably have frozen salaries on the west coast too. The wave of outsourcing will stop once the cost of doing business across the globe equalizes. It appears we are getting there. One can also view the middle between the coast as places for big companies to "out source" jobs out of their home locations. If Kansas can gather critical mass for aviation, Boise should make a claim in a specialized tech field. Don't be a dispensable auxiliary to HP and such.. Oh, yeah, how about making some better GA gears ? From better instruments to better LSAs that are like real airplanes :-).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I have co-founded a company that is making LED lighting for GA (experimental category initially), but we are still trying to earn back our initial investment and won't be in the black for many months. I have hopes that our business will grow to the point that I can make a living at it, but only time will tell. In the meantime, it is a real struggle being an engineer in this economy. I know many engineers that bailed out and took jobs in the business and financial sector where they aren't using their engineering skills other than their math and critical thinking. Many of them are making better money than they did as engineers. I know some that have gone back to get their MBAs (and the associated lobotomy) so that they can work in business management careers. If the trend ever does reverse, there is likely to be a shortage of engineers with many who left the profession not wanting to come back, and fewer new grads coming out of college since the job market is so poor right now. Oh well, we all have to do the best we can. Maybe we will get lucky and half of China will die of lead or melamine poisoning.... :-) Dean |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
wrote in message ups.com... I keep hearing claims that inflation is low, but fuel costs have doubled in the past 6 years, and housing prices have also nearly doubled (my house is appraising from almost twice what I paid for it in 2000), and consequently my property taxes have doubled. Seems to me that inflation is running pretty high since energy and housing are both pretty big portions of everyday expenses. The rising cost of insurance is also a big factor in the cost of housing. Our has increased by some 10X in the last decade. I also have been noticing big increases in the price of food recently. I don't know how the government figures that inflation is less than 5%. Yes, my income is not keeping pace and my flying hours are on the decrease as a result. Vaughn |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
Ron Wanttaja wrote:
Out of idle curiosity, I have to ask: How is eliminating the minimum wage going to allow more people to afford to fly? The employers will have more money. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
|
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Ouch!!! Wet rates keep going up!
On Sep 21, 11:51 am, LJ Blodgett wrote:
Do you have a side busines with Mike? Yes. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Ouch | [email protected] | Soaring | 6 | April 8th 07 10:53 PM |
AD - ouch!! (USA) | [email protected] | Soaring | 6 | July 20th 06 02:59 PM |
Dustdevils-ouch | Stewart Kissel | Soaring | 3 | July 12th 06 09:32 PM |
Ouch - $2/gal/hr | Hilton | Piloting | 22 | September 9th 05 09:15 PM |
OUCH! Lightning hits airplane......... | Aardvark | Piloting | 4 | February 8th 04 04:46 PM |