Lot of noise being made about Purple Hearts

In article
lgate.org,
"Michael Mcneil" wrote:

"Tom Lacombe" wrote in message


Charlie, Attacking me isn't going to make Bush and Cheney look any
better. I didn't support Clinton as he was a draft dodger, just like
alot of the guys in the present administration. Now tell me what I
lied about. Peace!

At the time Clinton wasn't involved in politics

?? He was focused on a life in politics by the time he finished high
school.

How many Japanese soldiers killed themselves after WWII I wonder. The
statistics are that more US Vietnam Vets topped themselves after the war
than the total number of troops that were died in Vietnam.

Cite?

crickets chirping

In article
lgate.org,
"Michael Mcneil" wrote:

"Vince Brannigan" wrote in message


Ed. with all due respect why would a combat injury be necessarily
related to "incompetance" ? People are injured on ships all the itme in
circmstances over which they have no control.

How much respect is due I wonder to a man who thinks becoming the target
of quite a number of well trained gunmen is incompetence?

Or to put it another way. They only send children to war. Older and
wiser people won't go.

You have an interesting definition of "child".

And you're wrong, to boot.

"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:734cf861186cbd4cee9e7401cc8e7945.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org...
"Vince Brannigan" wrote in message


Ed. with all due respect why would a combat injury be necessarily
related to "incompetance" ? People are injured on ships all the itme in
circmstances over which they have no control.

How much respect is due I wonder to a man who thinks becoming the target
of quite a number of well trained gunmen is incompetence?

Or to put it another way. They only send children to war. Older and
wiser people won't go.

That true's but, it's also why the Middle East
and Europe are still run by 2000 year Olde Dead Romans,
so it's not like under 30 has ever cared
what the hell Europe and the Middle East do
with their "wisdom".

Subject: Lot of noise being made about Purple Hearts
From: (Tom Lacombe)
Date: 8/18/2004 2:31 PM Pacific Standard Time
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:36:22 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"Tom Lacombe" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:06:54 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Billy Preston" wrote in message
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"Jim Thomas" wrote

I don't know how Kerry's bravery or lack of it, or his Purple Heart,
Silver Star, or whatever, have anything to do with what kind of
president he might be.

That's right. It was in his youth. What really counts is his record
in
the legislature. When you look at his voting record, and his
absenteeism, then that alone should tell you everything you need to
know about the kind of administration he would put together.

Look at the people around him. Do you want them to lead this
country? Could they lead?


Kerry has made Vietnam the central issue of his campaign in order to hide
his record.


I think Kerry is using his Vietnam service as a central issue, because
Bush and Cheney didn't serve in Vietnam. Peace!


No, it's to hide his record.


How does using Vietnam as a central issue hide his record? People are
going to hit him with whatever they've got regardless of his service,
and as we have been seeing, people are trying to use his service
against him. Peace!



It's not working. The lies are easy to see through. Nobody is buying that
neocon crap. Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their failure
to serve their country as he did. The polls now tell us that Kerry will take
the Electorial College if the election were held today.Please neocons. don't
snap back with your usual Clinton evasions. It's just too boring.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote

Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their failure
to serve their country as he did.

He only served for 4 months. Not enough to measure a mans worth.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...

It's not working. The lies are easy to see through. Nobody is buying that
neocon crap. Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their
failure to serve their country as he did.


Bush and Cheney have served their country and are still serving it.

Subject: Lot of noise being made about Purple Hearts
From: "Billy Preston"
Date: 8/18/2004 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: kPTUc.7908$ni.869@okepread01

"ArtKramr" wrote

Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their failure
to serve their country as he did.

He only served for 4 months. Not enough to measure a mans worth.


A man who landed om Omaha and fought his way through and only spent a week in
combat has proven himselfvery well. A man who fought the battle of the Hurtgen
Forest for only a month has proven himself very well. A man who fought in the
defence of Bastogne for only a month has proven himself very well. Bush has
proven nothing except his ability to disppear. Cheney has proven himself not
just a coward, buit a dirty mouthed coward.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Lot of noise being made about Purple Hearts
From: "Billy Preston"
Date: 8/18/2004 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: kPTUc.7908$ni.869@okepread01

"ArtKramr" wrote

Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their failure
to serve their country as he did.

He only served for 4 months. Not enough to measure a mans worth.


A man who landed om Omaha and fought his way through and only spent a week
in
combat has proven himselfvery well. A man who fought the battle of the
Hurtgen
Forest for only a month has proven himself very well. A man who fought in
the
defence of Bastogne for only a month has proven himself very well.

Odd that you should mention those three battles--each and every one of them
had Guardsmen contributing directly and bloodily to the outcome. You know,
those same Guardsmen who *you* said were sitting back at their armories at
the time?

snip further unsubstantiated ranting

Brooks

"ArtKramr" wrote
"ArtKramr" wrote

Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their failure
to serve their country as he did.

He only served for 4 months. Not enough to measure a mans worth.

A man who landed on Omaha and fought his way through and only spent a week in
combat has proven himself very well. A man who fought the battle of the Hurtgen
Forest for only a month has proven himself very well. A man who fought in the
defence of Bastogne for only a month has proven himself very well.

You've almost got an analogy there, except the guy in Hurtgen, Omaha Beach,
and Bastogne didn't volunteer to return home. They stood and fought.

Subject: Lot of noise being made about Purple Hearts
From: "Billy Preston"
Date: 8/18/2004 8:31 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: zaVUc.7915$ni.7854@okepread01

"ArtKramr" wrote
"ArtKramr" wrote

Bush and Chaney are just attacking him to cover up their failure
to serve their country as he did.

He only served for 4 months. Not enough to measure a mans worth.

A man who landed on Omaha and fought his way through and only spent a week
in
combat has proven himself very well. A man who fought the battle of the
Hurtgen
Forest for only a month has proven himself very well. A man who fought in
the
defence of Bastogne for only a month has proven himself very well.

You've almost got an analogy there, except the guy in Hurtgen, Omaha Beach,
and Bastogne didn't volunteer to return home. They stood and fought.


Many came home as a result of their wounds. I suggest you visit your local VA
hospital for an education in combat. If you have the stomach for it. At
Bastogne the defensae was led by the mighty 101st Airborne, at Omaha Beach the
powerful big red one led the charge. In the Hurtgen forest it was a
combination of:
22nd Infantry,· 4th Division,· VII Corps· XV Corps and 5th Armored Division

Some of these units at Hurgten were not too well trained ( National Guard,
Reserve) causing large casualties, But they did prevail in the end.So Kerry's
4 months was a lot more combat time than many of those above ever were in
combat.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer