[OT] Nothing Learned From History

From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if
you compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's
pre-1939 maneuvering?


If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured
Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing
military, thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and
crimes against humanity, then the United States would have been
condemned in shame by the world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive
aggressors, and FDR would have been cast out of office in the subsequent
election.

.....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it.

Subject: [OT] Nothing Learned From History
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Date: 9/12/2004 11:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
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From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if
you compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's
pre-1939 maneuvering?


If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured
Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing
military, thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and
crimes against humanity, then the United States would have been
condemned in shame by the world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive
aggressors, and FDR would have been cast out of office in the subsequent
election.

....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it.


How could FDR possibly invaded Germany?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:

Subject: [OT] Nothing Learned From History
From: stop spam
Date: 9/12/2004 11:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
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From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if
you compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's
pre-1939 maneuvering?


If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured
Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing
military, thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and
crimes against humanity, then the United States would have been
condemned in shame by the world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive
aggressors, and FDR would have been cast out of office in the subsequent
election.

....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it.



How could FDR possibly invaded Germany?

Did FDR have any sons? If so, did he take care to keep them safe from
the hazards of combat?

Cheers

--mike



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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wrote on 9/12/04 12:19 PM:

From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if
you compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's
pre-1939 maneuvering?


If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured
Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing
military, thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and
crimes against humanity, then the United States would have been
condemned in shame by the world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive
aggressors, and FDR would have been cast out of office in the subsequent
election.

....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it.

Assuming, of course, that the Germans just roll over and let it happen.
You'd probably end up with vicious bands of guerrillas a lot worse than the
Nazis. Imagine what kind of suicide bombers Germans would make.

Rex F. May wrote:

Nazis. Imagine what kind of suicide bombers Germans would make.

Not very good ones. Their culture did not glorify martyrdom unto death.

Japs and Moslems are good at it. Germans not good.

Bob Kolker

in article BZq1d.38838$MQ5.14039@attbi_s52, robert j. kolker at
wrote on 9/13/04 6:31 PM:



Rex F. May wrote:

Nazis. Imagine what kind of suicide bombers Germans would make.

Not very good ones. Their culture did not glorify martyrdom unto death.

Japs and Moslems are good at it. Germans not good.


Maybe, but you're talking about the likelihood of their becoming suicide
bombers. I'm talking about how good they'd be at it, given proverbial
German efficiency, once they'd made the decision.

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From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if you
compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's
pre-1939 maneuvering?


If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured
Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing military,
thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and crimes against
humanity, then the United States would have been condemned in shame by the
world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive aggressors, and FDR would
have been cast out of office in the subsequent election.

....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it.


It would have been impossible.

The US Army in 1937 wasnt big enough to invade any
country in Europe except Monaco and Lichenstein

Keith

Keith Willshaw wrote:
The US Army in 1937 wasnt big enough to invade any
country in Europe except Monaco and Lichenstein

IIRC, the U.S. Armed Forces ranked 20-th in the world, behind the armed
forces of Roumania!

Bob Kolker

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"Keith Willshaw" wrote:

"stop spam" wrote in message
...
From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if you
compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's
pre-1939 maneuvering?


If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured
Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing military,
thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and crimes against
humanity, then the United States would have been condemned in shame by the
world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive aggressors, and FDR would
have been cast out of office in the subsequent election.

....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it.


It would have been impossible.

The US Army in 1937 wasnt big enough to invade any
country in Europe except Monaco and Lichenstein

Couldn't have afforded the steamship tickets to get over there, either.

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If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany,
captured Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party,

He would probably been impeached. Apart from the fact the US would
have had trouble invading Mexico, let alone Germany, there was no
cause. In 1937, the Germans had not committed any breach of
international law. They might have breached the terms of the
Versailles treaty but that was a dead letter by 1935, and the Anglo
German naval treaty. At the time Hitler had committed no acts of
territorial aggression. The union with Austria was confirmed by what
seems to have been a fairly fair plebescite. It was as far as I know
accepted as fair at the time. If anything Mussolini and Stalin were
seen as greater threats to world peace.

The situation was very different from that prior to Gulf War 2. This
is going to be my only post on this subject as it comes rather close
to the BOP.

Ken Young


Those who cover themselves with martial glory
frequently go in need of any other garment. (Bramah)