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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Matt Barrow wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote in message om... Matt Barrow wrote: http://www.ainonline.com/Features/safety.pdf Check the chart. Who does a more methodical job? None of the charts on that link mention flight plans. Which group, do you think, does a more methodical job? I was curious to read a chart, along with the methodology used to collect the data. _I_ think that people who file a flight plan may have a better safety record. There are many other variables that can skew the data either way, so I'm interested in the specifics, which I couldn't find (in a reasonable amount of time related to my interest) in the link you posted. I used Adobe's search feature for "flight plan" within the document, and still don't see what you're pointing out. Do you need to have someone hold your hand? I guess so. Have a sparkling day, once you've crapped out whatever it is that's stuck up your ass. |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Thomas Borchert wrote:
No. But the statement quoted is pure anecdotal evidence. Don't take it too seriously. Yep, because the quote just comes from Cirrus's test pilots, not a real authority. On a slightly less glib note, the POH states that CAPS chute deployment is the only allowed method for spin recovery. That's a salient fact in a discussion about SR-20/22 spins that shouldn't be overlooked. ....not that there's any evidence that this was a spin. |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Tom Conner wrote: Is there a design benefit for an aircraft to not be spin recoverable? Yes, you can tack on a parachute and charge more for the plane. I wonder if the pilots were turning left, got blown too far and too close to the buildings by the strong wind yesterday, tried to bank even more, stalled and spun. (An observer said he saw the plane bank strongly and another saw the plane zig-zagging before it struck the building, which sounds like a spin to me.) With an instructor aboard, I doubt it was a visibility issue especially hearing that the vis was 8mi. Tien CPL-MEI |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Two pilots, not a crew, heads up and locked. Go back to the
Munson accident and it was similar. Ever go to a school reunion and meet an old teacher? You tend to become deferential. That is what Munson did. http://www.airdisaster.com/reports/n...SB-AAR-80-2%22 works wrote in message ups.com... | | Tom Conner wrote: | | Is there a design benefit for an aircraft to not be spin recoverable? | | Yes, you can tack on a parachute and charge more for the plane. | | I wonder if the pilots were turning left, got blown too far and too | close to the buildings by the strong wind yesterday, tried to bank even | more, stalled and spun. (An observer said he saw the plane bank | strongly and another saw the plane zig-zagging before it struck the | building, which sounds like a spin to me.) With an instructor aboard, | I doubt it was a visibility issue especially hearing that the vis was | 8mi. | | Tien | | CPL-MEI | |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
My first thought after hearing about this crash was here is another
case of an inept Cirrus pilot tempting Darwinism and losing. Then I wondered what could have caused this since I have ZERO knowledge of the airspace and relevant factors affecting flight in that area. Then I hear about the VFR corridor being only 2000' wide and a left turn (to the west) with an easterly wind. So at this point my initial perception may prove to be accurate. Ron Lee |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
John Theune wrote: It was significantly cheaper to use the chute then to certify it so they went that route. Interesting. I had always believed it was the other way around. TD |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Tom Conner wrote:
"Ed Warner" wrote in message oups.com... "....Once in a spin the SR20 and SR22 are virtually impossible to recover, according to the test pilots..." Is there a design benefit for an aircraft to not be spin recoverable? I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but I think I read something that mentioned that the design features that make an aircraft difficult to enter a spin can also make that plane difficult to recover from a spin if it does get put in that situation. |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Ben,
Yep, because the quote just comes from Cirrus's test pilots, not a real authority. Just because someone on the net writes that quote exists, doesn't mean it does. "The test pilots say"? Give me a name. A source. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20
Do you need to have someone hold your hand? I guess so. Have a sparkling day, once you've crapped out whatever it is that's stuck up your ass. Lol. So true. |
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