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ojunk (Mike Weeks) wrote in
: From: Lyle Date: 3/29/2004 04:07 Pacific Standard Time On 28 Mar 2004 21:33:14 GMT, ojunk (Mike Weeks) wrote: From: Orval Fairbairn Date: 3/27/2004 20:46 Pacific Standard Time In article , 362436 (Ron) wrote: The Navy did the same thing too after some people pulled some planes WW2 aircraft out of the gulf of mexico. Seems rather silly to me. Ron Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4) As the saying goes, "The Navy is 200 years of tradition unhampered by progress." I think its just that the USG never gives up "anything" unless it states so in very specific language. This isn't the first time it's taken such action, as noted above. could it be to prevent anybody from possibly disturbing a possible ship wreck/plane crash that also doubles as a coffin/cementary? Him removing the fighter would probably be the equivilent to somebody raising the Monitor or Arizona. Just a thought. While that indeed can be a reason, in this case, as w/ many other aircraft wreckage sites, that doesn't appear to apply. From another article on the subject: "In fact, the plane that crashed in North Carolina on Dec. 19, 1944, was on a training flight from the Cherry Point Marine Corps Training Station. The pilot died and Navy personnel stripped the downed aircraft of its weapons and other equipment before leaving it, according to people familiar with the history of the plane." In addition if one thinks about what has been USG policy in general; it's to return discovered remains for a proper burial. For a states-side crash that wouldn't seem to be an issue. As has been stated by others, it's the actual wreck itself that the gov't claims to own -- still. MW What happened to those abandoned P-38s that were under ice in Greenland,that some entepreneur was recovering? Did the US Navy take those back? Or request some legal transfer of ownership? Did the guy ever get any P-38s out of there? -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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Jim Yanik writes: What happened to those abandoned P-38s that were under ice in Greenland,that some entepreneur was recovering? Did the US Navy take those back? Or request some legal transfer of ownership? Did the guy ever get any P-38s out of there? One of the P-38s has not only been recovered, but is now flying as "Glacier Girl" (N5757). The big difference there is that the P-38 wasn't a Navy-owned aircraft. The U.S. Army/U.S.A.F isn't as tetchy on the subject as the Navy is. -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
.. . What happened to those abandoned P-38s that were under ice in Greenland,that some entepreneur was recovering? Did the US Navy take those back? Or request some legal transfer of ownership? **Navy** P-38s?? ;-) |
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message .. . What happened to those abandoned P-38s that were under ice in Greenland,that some entepreneur was recovering? Did the US Navy take those back? Or request some legal transfer of ownership? Did the guy ever get any P-38s out of there? The one P-38 was recovered years ago, I believe it was '92. After about ten years of restoration it now flies in air shows out of south eastern Kentucky as "Glacier Girl". I believe the web site is http://www.thelostsquadron.com/ This wasn't a Navy plane but a USAAF/USAF plane when it was abandoned. It and the other P-38s and the B-17 with them were deeded over to Denmark(?) as Greenland was their territory. The recovery rights to the planes were obtained from there. There have been others since then wishing to recover more of the planes but no more expeditions have made it to the ice that I'm aware of. One possible reason is the cost, I was told by one of the guys involved that the recovery and restoration totaled about the twice the cost of an open market purchase. |
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MIKE WEEKS, USS LIBERTY USS LIBERTY MURDERS ISRAEL AHRON JAY CRISTOL
A. JAY CRISTOL GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL GOI IDF THE LIBERTY INCIDENT ASSAULT ON THE LIBERTY JIM ENNES JAMES ENNES JAMES A. ENNES JOE MEADORS WAR CRIME stan engel shipfixr dn roberta hatch sheldon lieberman little_people Ward Boston Admiral Thomas Moorer Robert McNamara LBJ 30mm with proximity fusing 30mm cannon with proximity fusing 30mm cannon shell with proximity fusing kevin brooks said this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...g.goog le.com "No idea, but a good point. Heck, I am still waiting for ol' Mikey to tell me of his vast experience in dealing with "arrogant jet jockeys", since he made such a big deal of it. Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Bwaaaaahaaa! LOL!!! ROTFLMAO!!! C'mon mikey... tell an old scot your qualifications, laddie! Tank Fixer wrote in message nk.net... In article , on 28 Mar 2004 12:02:09 -0800, montgomery_scott attempted to say ..... Mikey! are y'pretending to'be something you're not with the readership ON THIS THREAD also???? Someone's off their meds I'd say... Accch! m'wee bairn... I'll give y'warp factor eight and maybe a wee bit more... Someone's off their meds I'd say... You're no giving credit where credit is due, m'wee bairn.... "somebody being off their meds" implies an organic basis for a true clinical condition... AS OPPOSED TO Somebody's off their ROCKER I'd say would give the proper amount of credit to someone who has worked hard to perfect his "messianic delusions of grandeur"...(my motions are a wee bit "mechanical" as i suppinate my palms and roll my eyes heavenward, laddie...but w'practice and an attitude of dedication I'll have it perfected soon).... ....but as of yet, I haven't been able to delude myself into believing I was a "jet fighter pilot" like Mike Weeks who got caught by Kevin Brooks bull****ting about his military accomplishments... HERE IS THE POST: kevin brooks said this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...g.goog le.com "No idea, but a good point. Heck, I am still waiting for ol' Mikey to tell me of his vast experience in dealing with "arrogant jet jockeys", since he made such a big deal of it. Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Bwaaaaahaaa! LOL!!! ROTFLMAO!!! C'mon mikey... tell an old scot your qualifications, laddie! Joe...perhaps the Zionist shills would prefer the $10,000 reward to be offerred for the: 1)production of a 30mm cannon shell with proximity fusing using materials available in 1967!!!! Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! or maybe...snicker 2)the production of the joystick of the jet fighter craft that A. Jay Cristol used while he was flying all of those combat missions in the Far East during the Korean War Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! or maybe... 3)the production of the documentation outling Cristol's service in Naval Intelligence!!! Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! or maybe... 4) the hyperlink where Zionist shill Mike Weeks explains to the google readership what Weeks's qualifications as a Naval ...ahem... "jet fighter pilot" from the "Data Entry Squadron were!!!! REMENBER THE POST WHERE KEVIN BROOKS CAUGHT MIKE WEEKS BULL****TING ABOUT BEING A "JET FIGHTER PILOT" WHEN IN REALITY HE WAS A "COMPUTER OPERATOR" FROM "THE DATA ENTRY SQUADRON"...HERE IT IS FAITHFULLY REPRODUCED... kevin brooks said this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...g.goog le.com "No idea, but a good point. Heck, I am still waiting for ol' Mikey to tell me of his vast experience in dealing with "arrogant jet jockeys", since he made such a big deal of it. Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! |
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MIKE WEEKS, USS LIBERTY USS LIBERTY MURDERS ISRAEL AHRON JAY CRISTOL
A. JAY CRISTOL GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL GOI IDF THE LIBERTY INCIDENT ASSAULT ON THE LIBERTY JIM ENNES JAMES ENNES JAMES A. ENNES JOE MEADORS WAR CRIME stan engel shipfixr dn roberta hatch sheldon lieberman little_people Ward Boston Admiral Thomas Moorer Robert McNamara LBJ 30mm with proximity fusing 30mm cannon with proximity fusing 30mm cannon shell with proximity fusing kevin brooks said this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...g.goog le.com "No idea, but a good point. Heck, I am still waiting for ol' Mikey to tell me of his vast experience in dealing with "arrogant jet jockeys", since he made such a big deal of it. Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Bwaaaaahaaa! LOL!!! ROTFLMAO!!! C'mon mikey... tell an old scot your qualifications, laddie! ojunk (Mike Weeks) wrote in message ... From: (Peter Stickney) Date: 3/29/2004 17:50 Pacific Standard Time ... The big difference there is that the P-38 wasn't a Navy-owned aircraft. The U.S. Army/U.S.A.F isn't as tetchy on the subject as the Navy is. Which brings up an interesting question in it's own right. Why might that be the case? WHICH BRINGS UP A GOOD QUESTION IN ITS OWN RIGHT. WHMIGHT THAT BE THE CASE, MIKEY THAT YOU BULL****TED ABOUT BEING A "JET FIGHTER PILOT"??? ....AND THEN...snicker... RAN AWAY FROM YOUR OWN WORDS WHEN Kevin Brooks called you on it??? Bwaaahhhhaaa! ROTFLMAO!!! LOL!!! MW Joe...perhaps the Zionist shills would prefer the $10,000 reward to be offerred for the: 1)production of a 30mm cannon shell with proximity fusing using materials available in 1967!!!! Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! or maybe...snicker 2)the production of the joystick of the jet fighter craft that A. Jay Cristol used while he was flying all of those combat missions in the Far East during the Korean War Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! or maybe... 3)the production of the documentation outling Cristol's service in Naval Intelligence!!! Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! or maybe... 4) the hyperlink where Zionist shill Mike Weeks explains to the google readership what Weeks's qualifications as a Naval ...ahem... "jet fighter pilot" from the "Data Entry Squadron were!!!! REMENBER THE POST WHERE KEVIN BROOKS CAUGHT MIKE WEEKS BULL****TING ABOUT BEING A "JET FIGHTER PILOT" WHEN IN REALITY HE WAS A "COMPUTER OPERATOR" FROM "THE DATA ENTRY SQUADRON"...HERE IT IS FAITHFULLY REPRODUCED... kevin brooks said this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...g.goog le.com "No idea, but a good point. Heck, I am still waiting for ol' Mikey to tell me of his vast experience in dealing with "arrogant jet jockeys", since he made such a big deal of it. Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Odd how he gets rather quiet when called upon his own "qualifications"." Bwahhaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO! LOL!!! |
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