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Garmin 530 WAAS?
Sam Spade wrote:
Dave Butler wrote: The link Doug Vetter posted to Avionics West in Tennessee makes a very clear statement that LPV IAPs cannot be flown. URL, please? I couldn't find it. What authority? What controlling document? SAIB doesn't say that. http://www.avionicswest.com/software...n0621.htm#1115 Thanks for the link. Just remember that when he says MANDATORY (capitalization his) he means it's a mandatory SB, compliance with which is not required for operation under Part 91. Nevertheless, of course, it behooves the prudent pilot to understand the SAIB and proceed with caution. |
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Doug Vetter wrote:
Al G wrote: Did Garmin finally get 'er done? "all 75,000 Garmin GNS 400/500 series products currently in the field can upgrade to WAAS" And to think...the 480 has apparently been downgraded to a TSO 129 box... http://www.avionicswest.com/software...n0621.htm#1115 The service bulletin doesn't say that.... and SB's aren't mandatory (even mandatory ones) for private operators. |
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Peter R. wrote:
Mike Adams wrote: Note also that the press release includes a footnote saying the 430W is not approved for primary means navigation. So, do you suppose that this caveat mean that one can no longer use the GPS to fly non-WAAS, or traditional RNAV/GPS approaches after upgrading (until the software update is released)? No, it just means you must have a non-GPS alternate. Same as you do now. |
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Dave Butler wrote:
Sam Spade wrote: Dave Butler wrote: The link Doug Vetter posted to Avionics West in Tennessee makes a very clear statement that LPV IAPs cannot be flown. URL, please? I couldn't find it. What authority? What controlling document? SAIB doesn't say that. http://www.avionicswest.com/software...n0621.htm#1115 Thanks for the link. Just remember that when he says MANDATORY (capitalization his) he means it's a mandatory SB, compliance with which is not required for operation under Part 91. Nevertheless, of course, it behooves the prudent pilot to understand the SAIB and proceed with caution. The SAIB doesn't say you can't fly LPV's. It recommends that if you are going to do WAAS that you preplan the availability of WAAS using a PC program. The C146a certiifcation wasn't removed, but one condition was "waivered" |
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"Peter R." wrote in message ... Al G wrote: Did Garmin finally get 'er done? "all 75,000 Garmin GNS 400/500 series products currently in the field can upgrade to WAAS" Thanks for posting this announcement. As a GNS430 owner who has been on the list since its inception, I will be calling my avionics shop tomorrow to be sure they are aware of this. -- Peter Word from AOPA Expo was starting January 1 ... Jay B |
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Garmin 530 WAAS?
Jay Beckman wrote:
Word from AOPA Expo was starting January 1 ... Hey, welcome back, Jay! I trust you had a great time? This WAAS upgrade appears to be a two step upgrade. The first step involves sending in the unit for a hardware update, which will be available January, and the second step involves a software update that can be done with a data card. This second step will not be available until March or April. If that is how it works, I may not bother to send my unit in until Spring or early Summer. I am still using my aircraft to commute twice per week and could not afford to be without the GPS unit (keeping in mind it is also my primary comm and nav radio) for the two weeks it will probably take in turn-around to get the hardware updated. In the past, Garmin was good about offering loaners to those of us who had to send in the units but I suspect with such a strong, pent-up demand waiting to unleash, there will be no loaner program for this upgrade. -- Peter |
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 08:26:20 -0800, Sam Spade wrote:
Mike Adams wrote: Doug Vetter wrote: And to think...the 480 has apparently been downgraded to a TSO 129 box... Not true. The 480 is still approved for WAAS procedures - the SAIB just recommends a RAIM check and a non-GPS alternate. The link Doug Vetter posted to Avionics West in Tennessee makes a very clear statement that LPV IAPs cannot be flown. That may be. But that article links to a Garmin document, which states in part, "...The Service Bulletin and SAIB notifications will not prevent the pilot from flying GPS approaches including LNAV/VNAV and LPV procedures..." Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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"Peter R." wrote in message
... Jay Beckman wrote: Word from AOPA Expo was starting January 1 ... Hey, welcome back, Jay! I trust you had a great time? Certainly did, thanks... If I can figure out a way to distil the week into less of a whirlwind in print than it was in person, I'll give some form of ConRep but it may end up being one of those "you had to be there." There will be photos (lots of photos!) posted at a later date. Didn't get to Palm Springs in time for the inbound Parade Of Planes but I was there for the outbound and THAT was way cool. Of course, it was fun to meet some of the movers & shakers and some of the flying "gurus" (Schiff, Machado, JM King, etc...) Hartford in October of 2007...! This WAAS upgrade appears to be a two step upgrade. The first step involves sending in the unit for a hardware update, which will be available January, and the second step involves a software update that can be done with a data card. This second step will not be available until March or April. IIRC, that's exactly how the Garmin rep explained it to Jack Allison when we stopped by the Garmin display. If that is how it works, I may not bother to send my unit in until Spring or early Summer. I am still using my aircraft to commute twice per week and could not afford to be without the GPS unit (keeping in mind it is also my primary comm and nav radio) for the two weeks it will probably take in turn-around to get the hardware updated. You raise an interesting logistical issue. In the past, Garmin was good about offering loaners to those of us who had to send in the units but I suspect with such a strong, pent-up demand waiting to unleash, there will be no loaner program for this upgrade. You're probably right... Good luck and I look forward to hearing how this works out for the people affected/involved. Jay B |
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Jay Beckman wrote:
Hartford in October of 2007...! One on this side of the US I may attend. Good luck and I look forward to hearing how this works out for the people affected/involved. When I make the upgrade I will post about the experience, including the learning curve to pick up the new features, here. -- Peter |
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Thanks Peter, I would appreciate that.
Al G "Peter R." wrote in message news Jay Beckman wrote: Hartford in October of 2007...! One on this side of the US I may attend. Good luck and I look forward to hearing how this works out for the people affected/involved. When I make the upgrade I will post about the experience, including the learning curve to pick up the new features, here. -- Peter |
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