"Taliban Doors"

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:12:36 -0500 "Ron Natalie" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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Interesting side-note to the new doors, Ralph Nader and his Raiders
proposed improved doors back in 1987 but the airlines balked.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


Actually that's incorrect. A stopped clock
would only be right if you looked at it at the exact
moment of the time that's displayed. This is all based
on the assumption that it's a clock with hands and that
it's a 12 hour clock.

The clock is right (for that infintessimal moment) whether you're looking at
it or not.

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble. I'm sure
you'll get over it though.

Sorry to burst yours. :~)

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:26:24 -0700 "Tom Sixkiller" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:12:36 -0500 "Ron Natalie" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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Interesting side-note to the new doors, Ralph Nader and his Raiders
proposed improved doors back in 1987 but the airlines balked.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


Actually that's incorrect. A stopped clock
would only be right if you looked at it at the exact
moment of the time that's displayed. This is all based
on the assumption that it's a clock with hands and that
it's a 12 hour clock.

The clock is right (for that infintessimal moment) whether you're looking at
it or not.


You'd be wrong about that, because if I'm not looking at it for the time
shown but only at the time not shown then it's wrong. And if I look at
twice a day, it'll be wrong both times.

I guess I burst your bubble too. Humble apologies.


R. Hubbell

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:26:24 -0700 "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:12:36 -0500 "Ron Natalie"
wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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Interesting side-note to the new doors, Ralph Nader and his
Raiders
proposed improved doors back in 1987 but the airlines balked.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


Actually that's incorrect. A stopped clock
would only be right if you looked at it at the exact
moment of the time that's displayed. This is all based
on the assumption that it's a clock with hands and that
it's a 12 hour clock.

The clock is right (for that infintessimal moment) whether you're
looking at
it or not.


You'd be wrong about that, because if I'm not looking at it for the time
shown but only at the time not shown then it's wrong. And if I look at
twice a day, it'll be wrong both times.

(You really should leave the subjectivism behind once you reach adulthood)

Sigh!!! It's wrong all but twice a day.

I guess I burst your bubble too. Humble apologies.

They should be humble.

In a previous article, "Tom Sixkiller" said:
Nader isn't a rocket scientist by any means...he's not even a engineer, and
certainly has never run any business other than his strong-arm organization
that would do the Mafia proud. Yet the scumbag raises $$millions and he got
5% of the vote...beating even the Libertarian candidate.

Yeah, he's such a scumbag because he forced companies to stop accepting a
few dozen deaths a year because it was cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to
add a few cents to the price of each car.

Next time you're in a car that DOESN'T spray flaming gasoline all over you
when it's lightly rear-ended, remember that.

--
"The magic of usenet has never been its technology; and, only in part, its
reach. Its magic -- its power -- is based on the very real human connections
that form 'round its threads of conversation... the relationships that are
kindled, flamed and, on occasion, extinguished and mourned." -deCadmus

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:08:38 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in Message-Id: :

In a previous article, "Tom Sixkiller" said:
Nader isn't a rocket scientist by any means...he's not even a engineer, and
certainly has never run any business other than his strong-arm organization
that would do the Mafia proud. Yet the scumbag raises $$millions and he got
5% of the vote...beating even the Libertarian candidate.

Yeah, he's such a scumbag because he forced companies to stop accepting a
few dozen deaths a year because it was cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to
add a few cents to the price of each car.

Paul, you seem to lack respect of laissez-faire capitalism. In the
USA, production of goods are determined by free market competition.
Competition in the marketplace dictates that a business reduce costs
lower than its competitors or face economic extinction.

If the people of the USA, represented by their government, and in this
case Ralph Nader, demand products that are designed with safety as
their paramount design criterion instead of absolute minimum price,
how are businesses supposed to remain competitive? With a
safety-first mandate, Ford and General Motors will surely fail soon.
:-)

Next time you're in a car that DOESN'T spray flaming gasoline all over you
when it's lightly rear-ended, remember that.

Incinerating a few hapless families due to the cost savings provided
by cost-reduction driven engineering, instead of safety as the primary
criterion, is just collateral damage along the road to business
profitability. Sacrifices must be made for the corporate bottom line.
:-)


But seriously...

Left to itself the auto industry would jettison auto safety in a
heartbeat. Ford produced Pintos with their exploding gas tanks and GM
pickups with side-saddle gas tanks located within the passenger
compartment burned to death over 750 people.

Thanks mostly to Ralph Nader, a graduate of Harvard Law School,
drivers in the USA are surrounded with costly seat belts, air bags,
anti-lock brakes, collapsible steering columns, roll-over protection
and steel 'I' beams in the doors. Despite these safety measures,
every 14 seconds someone is injured in a traffic crash, and every 14
minutes someone is killed. And according to the National Highway
Traffic Safety Administration, traffic crashes cost America more than
$150 billion a year – an average of $580 per person. Big business
would argue, "better these costs be paid by the American people than
us." It's another example of big business' exploitation for profit.


--
"I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect
our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security."
--Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Tom Sixkiller" said:
Nader isn't a rocket scientist by any means...he's not even a engineer,
and
certainly has never run any business other than his strong-arm
organization
that would do the Mafia proud. Yet the scumbag raises $$millions and he
got
5% of the vote...beating even the Libertarian candidate.

Yeah, he's such a scumbag because he forced companies to stop accepting a
few dozen deaths a year because it was cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to
add a few cents to the price of each car.

Next time you're in a car that DOESN'T spray flaming gasoline all over you
when it's lightly rear-ended, remember that.

Car's were made without defects LONG before Nader was even BORN. Remeber
this, too: Most criticism is SELF-SERVING.

Grow TF up!

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Tom Sixkiller" said:
Nader isn't a rocket scientist by any means...he's not even a engineer,
and
certainly has never run any business other than his strong-arm
organization
that would do the Mafia proud. Yet the scumbag raises $$millions and he
got
5% of the vote...beating even the Libertarian candidate.

Yeah, he's such a scumbag because he forced companies to stop accepting
a
few dozen deaths a year because it was cheaper to pay off lawsuits than
to
add a few cents to the price of each car.

Next time you're in a car that DOESN'T spray flaming gasoline all over
you
when it's lightly rear-ended, remember that.

Car's were made without defects LONG before Nader was even BORN. Remeber
this, too: Most criticism is SELF-SERVING.

Clarification: "...defects were corrected...".

Grow TF up!

Paul Tomblin wrote:



Next time you're in a car that DOESN'T spray flaming gasoline all over you
when it's lightly rear-ended, remember that.

Every car used to do that? My memory fails me.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...

You'd be wrong about that, because if I'm not looking at it for the time
shown but only at the time not shown then it's wrong. And if I look at
twice a day, it'll be wrong both times.

(You really should leave the subjectivism behind once you reach adulthood)

How long does an 8-day clock go without winding?

Tom

This may be a paraphrase of the old shaggy dog.?

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it.

Does it make a noise?

Big John

What goes around comes around they say.


On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:26:24 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:12:36 -0500 "Ron Natalie" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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Interesting side-note to the new doors, Ralph Nader and his Raiders
proposed improved doors back in 1987 but the airlines balked.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


Actually that's incorrect. A stopped clock
would only be right if you looked at it at the exact
moment of the time that's displayed. This is all based
on the assumption that it's a clock with hands and that
it's a 12 hour clock.

The clock is right (for that infintessimal moment) whether you're looking at
it or not.

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble. I'm sure
you'll get over it though.

Sorry to burst yours. :~)