We Are All Spaniards

That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:26:18 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

The socialists have just won the election & Zapatero has
pledged to withdraw troops from Iraq. Looks like it's
down to the US, Britain, Australia and Poland. Rather
like last time.

With this election the Spanish have actually legitimized the very attackers
they supposedly revile, and endangered us all in the process.

This election will encourage the terrorists like nothing else has.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.

More worrisome are the U.S. elections in the fall, IMHO.

The terrorists have seen what can be accomplished in Spain; they may assume
Kerry is the equivalent of the Socialists?

Nothing good can come of this.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:26:18 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

The socialists have just won the election & Zapatero has
pledged to withdraw troops from Iraq. Looks like it's
down to the US, Britain, Australia and Poland. Rather
like last time.

With this election the Spanish have actually legitimized the very
attackers
they supposedly revile, and endangered us all in the process.

This election will encourage the terrorists like nothing else has.

One report earlier this morning gave rise to the possibility it was locals,
not any Islamic terrorists. Another gave a possible link back to the
Socialists.

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.


I disagree. Britain has always been a target. An attack would not
change government policy (even if Labour were kicked out, the
Conservatives are even more bullish). And the UK have a clearer
sense of their global responsibilities than Spain. Of course, this
doesn't preclude an attack out of spite, but that is as likely now as
it was before the weekend. The most likely enhanced targets are
France and Germany (over the hajib issue), and in fact these two
have today called for an EU-wide emergency security conference.

The big loser in this is not the coalition forces in Iraq; rather it is
the institutions of the EU. The idea of a common defense force is
exposed as a farce (with Spain turning tail after just one bloody
nose), and continent-wide unity dealt a further blow (as the Spanish
political establishment is clearly not in the least concerned that their
actions have made life more dangerous and difficult for the rest of
the people of the EU).

This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points
to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in
Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and
perhaps more susceptible to blackmail).

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:44:17 GMT, "Tony Cox" wrote:

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
.. .

That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.


I disagree. Britain has always been a target. An attack would not
change government policy (even if Labour were kicked out, the
Conservatives are even more bullish). And the UK have a clearer
sense of their global responsibilities than Spain. Of course, this
doesn't preclude an attack out of spite, but that is as likely now as
it was before the weekend. The most likely enhanced targets are
France and Germany (over the hajib issue), and in fact these two
have today called for an EU-wide emergency security conference.

The big loser in this is not the coalition forces in Iraq; rather it is
the institutions of the EU. The idea of a common defense force is
exposed as a farce (with Spain turning tail after just one bloody
nose), and continent-wide unity dealt a further blow (as the Spanish
political establishment is clearly not in the least concerned that their
actions have made life more dangerous and difficult for the rest of
the people of the EU).


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (requires authentication)

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.

Don't worry about the British. They have been dealing with American funded
Irish terrorists for years.
Also with Libyan funded Palestinian terrorists
and Israeli government terrorists blowing up Palestinians, not to mention
Iranians. They don't need patronising Americans who have only recently
discovered what terrorism is about warn them.
Lets face it the FBI and the CIA fu*ked it up well between them.

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
With this election the Spanish have actually legitimized the
very attackers they supposedly revile, and endangered
us all in the process.

True, but not the real story. The Spanish public was overwhelmingly
against the Iraq war before the bombings. The bombings may have
affected the margin, but the election results are really payback to a
party that ignored its constituents.

This election will encourage the terrorists like
nothing else has.

Unfortunately, the spin in the Muslim world will be that Al Qaeda
frightened the Spanish people into replacing their government. Score
one for the bad guys.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
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Apologies to Kenny Rogers, and also to the original author of this piece
whose name I don't know.


Everyone considered him the coward of the country
He never went to Vietnam though he thought it a just war
His mamma named him Georgie, the folks just called him Dubya
But something always told me he was looking for a war


He spent Vietnam safely hidden in the air guard
Life looked after Dubya, cause he was his father's son
I still recall the fateful words when his Daddy lost to Clinton
"Son, my career's over, but yours is just begun

Promise me son, not to do the things I've done
Walk away from danger if you can
They can't call you weak if you slaughter men like sheep
I hope you're smart enough to understand
If lots of others die you'll be a man"

There's some war for everyone and Dubya's was bin Laden
As commander in chief they'd have to treat him like a man
No matter how hard he tried he just couldn't get bin Laden
But he'd bomb other countries ...there was lots of them!

Dubya watched the TV and he saw his soldiers dyin'
The crying wives, civilian lives, a devastated land
He reached above the fireplace and took down his daddy's picture
As his pride grew on his smiling face, he heard these words again

"Promise me son, not to do the things I've done
Walk away from danger if you can
They can't call you weak, if you slaughter men like sheep
I hope you're smart enough to understand
If lots of others die you'll be a man"

The other leaders laughed at him when he gave up diplomacy
Even his allies said they wouldn't support him no more
When Dubya he gave up they said, "Hey, look old Dubya's failing."
But you could have heard a bomb drop when Dubya started a new war

Fifty years of failure, was bottled up inside him
He wasn't holdin nothin back, he let 'em have it all
When Dubya finished bombing, not a country was left standing
He said, "I've a big penis" as he watched the last bomb fall
And I heard him say,

"I promised you Dad, not to the things you done
I walk away from danger when I can
Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't try diplomacy
And Papa I sure hope you understand
When lots of others die you are a man

Everyone considered him the coward of the country


"

Everyone considered him the coward of the country

Cute, but what does it have to do with this thread?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article , "Dan Luke"
writes:


This election will encourage the terrorists like
nothing else has.

Unfortunately, the spin in the Muslim world will be that Al Qaeda
frightened the Spanish people into replacing their government. Score
one for the bad guys.
--

And Italy, Britain and Australia will no doubt pay a heavy price for the
cowardice of the Spanish.

Churchill, speaking of appeasement, said it was 'feeding the crocodile in hopes
it would eat you last.'

Don

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG