Navion in flames.

Ron Natalie wrote:


The ground roll with the Gopher engine was 850', 1100 for the 50'
obstacle. Certainly we were off by midfield on a 2400 strip.
I operate off a 3000' grass, and I'm certainly off by midfield
with the current engine.

That seems a little long. You can't get that thing off the ground in
about 600 feet with the 550?



The thing has huge squishy 7.00x8 tires in addition to big oleos on the
mains. It was designed for unimproved strips.

Just like mine.

Ummm.... DOORS?....off a Navion?

Dave


On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:38:22 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:


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The Meyers 200 blows the doors off a Navion, tho', and has the way cool looks also...

Rip wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote:

Newps wrote:



Ron Natalie wrote:

Newps wrote:



Margy Natalie wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:

Jay, I now know you understand what a really cool airplane is!!





What does the Navion cruise at at 75%? How slow can it go on final
with one person and a half tank of gas?





With the IO-550 ours bops along at 160 kts ground speed quite nicely.

Approach speeds are very much skyhawk-like. I think the Vso is 47
in knots. You gotta be below 87 to even drop the gear.





OK, so it's a little slow in cruise, 10-12 knots less than my 520
powered Bo, but looks like you can land it short. I assume because
it was designed 100 years ago the gear was made to land in rough
areas and you could fly final at about 60 MPH indicated. So 1200
foot strips shouldn't be a problem?


It's a Navion, it's always been a bit slower than a Bo. It was
designed to land in rough fields and I pull off mid-field on a 3,000'
grass strip without doing a short field landing and not landing
anywhere near the end. I think if I worked at it I could get 800',
but I don't work that hard :-).

Margy

With a 10 knot headwind, and honking the brakes more than I like, I can
get down and off the runway in 380 feet. And actually live to tell about
it! ;-)
Figures are from the extended threshold at Danbury (DXR)RWY26 to the
first exit (Taxiway Bravo).

Now, getting off again with my E-185 engine is another matter altogether.

Rip
5186K
Ok, Once at Dulles I had a honking headwind and exited the runway at the
second entrance taxiway MUCH closer than the first high speed. Poor
controller couldn't figure out how I did it.

Margy

Newps wrote:


Margy Natalie wrote:


It's a Navion, it's always been a bit slower than a Bo. It was
designed to land in rough fields and I pull off mid-field on a 3,000'
grass strip without doing a short field landing and not landing
anywhere near the end. I think if I worked at it I could get 800',
but I don't work that hard :-).


That was my main concern when I decided to sell the 182 and get the
Bonanza. I wanted to be able to get to most of the strips I used in my
182. The Bonanza folks are no help because all they care about is going
fast and most of them are scared to death to get slower than 100 mph
unless they are directly over the runway. My Bo only needs 100 feet
more runway than the 182 with the same load, me and 40 gallons. I can
takeoff in 550 feet and land in the same distance of total runway used.
That's at a DA of 5000. You should be able to get that Navion stopped
more like my 182, about 450 feet.
I should, but I learned to fly at Dulles and I like flying over the
first 1,000' of runway :-).

Margy

Newps wrote:


Ron Natalie wrote:


The ground roll with the Gopher engine was 850', 1100 for the 50'
obstacle. Certainly we were off by midfield on a 2400 strip.
I operate off a 3000' grass, and I'm certainly off by midfield
with the current engine.


That seems a little long. You can't get that thing off the ground in
about 600 feet with the 550?



The thing has huge squishy 7.00x8 tires in addition to big oleos on the
mains. It was designed for unimproved strips.


Just like mine.

I think we are way off by midfield with an easy start to roll. If we
did a short field I'm sure we be off much sooner!

Margy

"john smith" wrote in message ...
::
: You should watch the sales video they did in Texas. VERY short approach
: and landing over tall trees.


Tall trees....in Texas?


;-)

"Dave" wrote in message ...
: Ummm.... DOORS?....off a Navion?
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: Dave
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: On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:38:22 GMT, "Blueskies"
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: The Meyers 200 blows the doors off a Navion, tho', and has the way cool looks also...
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Uh, yea, that's it...the gear doors...


;-)

Blueskies wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ...
: Ummm.... DOORS?....off a Navion?
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: Dave
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: On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:38:22 GMT, "Blueskies"
: wrote:
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: The Meyers 200 blows the doors off a Navion, tho', and has the way cool looks also...
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Uh, yea, that's it...the gear doors...


No gear doors on the mains either.