How close would Hawaii have to be...

PJ Hunt wrote:

"Peter Duniho" wrote

Why do you ask? Have you discovered a way to move the islands?

I'd love it if the Hawaiian islands were closer to here. But I'm afraid

the

weather might change if you relocate them. They might not be such a
desirable vacation location after such a big move.


Maybe we could just move California closer to Hawaii.

And wreck Hawaii from the stench of California?

Jay Honeck wrote:

Current weather in Phoenix is almost the same (actually we're at 74F),
plus it's a lot closer (unless you live in Hawaii).


Yeah, Phoenix starts to look pretty nice about now. (Although we have had
another very nice fall here in Iowa, with temps pushing into the upper 40s
almost every day. That's about to change, I suspect...)

Too bad Phoenix is such a blast furnace from April till October.

I was in Phoenix with my kids hockey team the first weekend of October.
First time I had been there since the mid 70's when I was a kid on a
family trip. I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would
live there even in the winter, much less the hotter months. If you
don't golf you have absolutely nothing to do. Give me Florida and a
nice humid 85 on the beach anytime.

In article C1pud.478300$wV.473371@attbi_s54,
(Ben Jackson) wrote:

How close would Hawaii have to be for pilots to vacation there in light
airplanes?

Current weather in Hilo: 72F, but a bit cloudy...

PHTO 102153Z 31011KT 10SM BKN045 OVC055 22/14 A3014 RMK AO2 SLP205 T02220144


Not any closer...IF you fly there in a Diamond Twinstar at about 55%
throttle....

Once they start delivering of course...

--
Chris Schmelzer, MD
Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI

I was in Phoenix with my kids hockey team the first weekend of October.
First time I had been there since the mid 70's when I was a kid on a
family trip. I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would live
there even in the winter, much less the hotter months. If you don't golf
you have absolutely nothing to do. Give me Florida and a nice humid 85 on
the beach anytime.

I was with you until you hit that Florida note. Florida is like a hot, wet,
sticky blanket, with large insects.

I can take it for a week in March, though...

Phoenix, on the other hand, is just about the ugliest city I've ever seen.
Dirty, brown, dusty, barren, with lots of street people and wailing sirens.

But, again, I can take it for a week or two in winter!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

I was in Phoenix with my kids hockey team the first weekend of October.
First time I had been there since the mid 70's when I was a kid on a
family trip. I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would live
there even in the winter, much less the hotter months. If you don't golf
you have absolutely nothing to do. Give me Florida and a nice humid 85 on
the beach anytime.


I was with you until you hit that Florida note. Florida is like a hot, wet,
sticky blanket, with large insects.

Growing up in Minnesota I know all about flying insects. This is not a
problem along the Florida coasts. But I do pull the Geckos and little
frogs from my folks pool enclosure. I like humidity when I am by the
ocean and Florida is 100% better for the insects than the midwest.

Growing up in Minnesota I know all about flying insects. This is not a
problem along the Florida coasts. But I do pull the Geckos and little
frogs from my folks pool enclosure. I like humidity when I am by the
ocean and Florida is 100% better for the insects than the midwest.

One thing I really, REALLY like about the Midwest is the way the winter
kills off all the bugs.

In Florida this never happens, thus my comment.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:v9Nud.246308$R05.80734@attbi_s53...
I was in Phoenix with my kids hockey team the first weekend of October.
First time I had been there since the mid 70's when I was a kid on a
family trip. I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would
live there even in the winter, much less the hotter months. If you don't
golf you have absolutely nothing to do. Give me Florida and a nice humid
85 on the beach anytime.

I was with you until you hit that Florida note. Florida is like a hot,
wet, sticky blanket, with large insects.

I can take it for a week in March, though...

Phoenix, on the other hand, is just about the ugliest city I've ever seen.
Dirty, brown, dusty, barren, with lots of street people and wailing
sirens.

But, again, I can take it for a week or two in winter!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

What else would a desert be but brown, dusty and barren? It's precisely
because people don't appreciate it's natural, rugged beauty that we find
ourselves in a water crunch. People should let the desert be a desert and
stop trying to convert it into some lush paradise which it isn't meant to
be.

As for the dirty part...Phoenix is no worse (and certainly a lot better)
than many major cities around the country.

The homeless situation is directly tied to the weather. Makes sense doesn't
it? If you're gonna be sleeping outside, why not go where it's warm? Been
to Seattle lately? I seems to me that there are just as many homeless (if
not more...) in Seattle and they are a lot more aggressive when it comes to
panhandling. I've never felt threatened by anyone on the streets of
downtown Phoenix...but I've had the bejezus scared out of me a couple of
time in Seattle by people rushing up and getting right in my face for spare
change.

Dunno why you think we have an over abundance of sirens. We certainly don't
hear them much down here in the SE part of the valley. Maybe you just have
overly sensitive ears? :O)

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

news:v9Nud.246308$R05.80734@attbi_s53...
I was in Phoenix with my kids hockey team the first weekend of October.
First time I had been there since the mid 70's when I was a kid on a
family trip. I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would
live there even in the winter, much less the hotter months. If you don't
golf you have absolutely nothing to do.

How could you possibly know what there is to do after only spending a
*weekend* here? What...did you spend 15 minutes thumbing through the
phonebook in your hotel room?

There's a *ton* of stuff to do here! Like any other city, if you know
what you want to do, you can find it pretty easily -- it's not
Timbuktu... all sports, hobbies and other interests and activities are
just as accessible here as they are anywhere else, some moreso; if you
don't already have an idea what you'd like to do, it takes a little time
to find out what there is just by talking to people and hearing about
places to go and things to do. What exactly did you expect to find that
wasn't here?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
Phoenix, on the other hand, is just about the ugliest city I've ever seen.
Dirty, brown, dusty, barren, with lots of street people and wailing
sirens.

And as for you, Jay Honeck, visit any major city in the nation, and tell
me there aren't some areas that people in the really nice parts of the
city wish didn't exist! Ever been to San Francisco? It has some of the
most gorgeous architecture, beautifully-restored Victorian homes to die
for, many historical landmarks, spectacular views, and other things to
see. But don't kid yourself -- there are some districts in San Francisco
(as in any big city) that are crawling with street people, old battered
homes that are barely hanging by a thread, streets littered with raw
garbage and dirty diapers, and areas where you wouldn't *dare* want to
even THINK about getting out of your car.

Point being that it's easy to make these blanket generalizations about
cities that you only see certain parts of. As Jay Beckman said, Phoenix
is no better or worse than any other big city ... certainly not all of
it is "dirty, brown, dusty, or barren" and God knows, saying there's
"absolutely nothing to do" couldn't be further from the truth. Of
course, if you like building snowmen, being on hurricane watch, trapsing
around in the rain for 6 months out of every year, and being bundled up
in layers and layers of warm clothes, you wouldn't be happy in Phoenix.

wrote in message
...
news:v9Nud.246308$R05.80734@attbi_s53...
I was in Phoenix with my kids hockey team the first weekend of
October.
First time I had been there since the mid 70's when I was a kid on a
family trip. I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would
live there even in the winter, much less the hotter months. If you
don't
golf you have absolutely nothing to do.

How could you possibly know what there is to do after only spending a
*weekend* here? What...did you spend 15 minutes thumbing through the
phonebook in your hotel room?

There's a *ton* of stuff to do here! Like any other city, if you know
what you want to do, you can find it pretty easily -- it's not
Timbuktu... all sports, hobbies and other interests and activities are
just as accessible here as they are anywhere else, some moreso; if you
don't already have an idea what you'd like to do, it takes a little time
to find out what there is just by talking to people and hearing about
places to go and things to do. What exactly did you expect to find that
wasn't here?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
Phoenix, on the other hand, is just about the ugliest city I've ever
seen.
Dirty, brown, dusty, barren, with lots of street people and wailing
sirens.

And as for you, Jay Honeck, visit any major city in the nation, and tell
me there aren't some areas that people in the really nice parts of the
city wish didn't exist! Ever been to San Francisco? It has some of the
most gorgeous architecture, beautifully-restored Victorian homes to die
for, many historical landmarks, spectacular views, and other things to
see. But don't kid yourself -- there are some districts in San Francisco
(as in any big city) that are crawling with street people, old battered
homes that are barely hanging by a thread, streets littered with raw
garbage and dirty diapers, and areas where you wouldn't *dare* want to
even THINK about getting out of your car.

Point being that it's easy to make these blanket generalizations about
cities that you only see certain parts of. As Jay Beckman said, Phoenix
is no better or worse than any other big city ... certainly not all of
it is "dirty, brown, dusty, or barren" and God knows, saying there's
"absolutely nothing to do" couldn't be further from the truth. Of
course, if you like building snowmen, being on hurricane watch, trapsing
around in the rain for 6 months out of every year, and being bundled up
in layers and layers of warm clothes, you wouldn't be happy in Phoenix.

The preceding message was brought to you by the Greater Phoenix Convention
and Visitors Bureau... (Hi Shirl...)

Grin, Duck, Run...

Jay B

Not close enough, but gives you a good reason to buy a bigger plane, you
know a christmas present.
Clyde

"Ben Jackson" wrote in message
news:C1pud.478300$wV.473371@attbi_s54...
How close would Hawaii have to be for pilots to vacation there in light
airplanes?

Current weather in Hilo: 72F, but a bit cloudy...

PHTO 102153Z 31011KT 10SM BKN045 OVC055 22/14 A3014 RMK AO2 SLP205
T02220144

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/