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AERODYNAMICS OF GLIDING FLIGHT IN A HARRIS' HAWK



 
 
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Old November 7th 06, 04:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Doug Haluza
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Stumbled across an interesting wind tunnel test of a Harris' Hawk
(L/D=10:1).

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/149/1/469.pdf

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Old November 7th 06, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Doug Haluza wrote:
Stumbled across an interesting wind tunnel test of a Harris' Hawk
(L/D=10:1).

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/149/1/469.pdf


That is awesome, now the Hawks can derive polar coefficients to program
into their flight computers.

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Old November 7th 06, 08:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Doug,

That is really pretty good for an accipiter that catches song birds in
flight. I wonder what they would come up with on one of the soaring raptors
(Swainson, Red Tail, Golden Eagle, Turkey Vulture, etc.)
(http://www.soaridaho.com/Guest_Photo..._and_Hawk.html)

Wayne

"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
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Stumbled across an interesting wind tunnel test of a Harris' Hawk
(L/D=10:1).

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/149/1/469.pdf



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Old November 7th 06, 08:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Doug Haluza
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Wayne Paul wrote:
Doug,

That is really pretty good for an accipiter that catches song birds in
flight. I wonder what they would come up with on one of the soaring raptors
(Swainson, Red Tail, Golden Eagle, Turkey Vulture, etc.)
(http://www.soaridaho.com/Guest_Photo..._and_Hawk.html)

Wayne

"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stumbled across an interesting wind tunnel test of a Harris' Hawk
(L/D=10:1).

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/149/1/469.pdf


They had a polar comparison with a Black Vulture, but it was not as
good, sort of like the 1-26 of raptors? ;-)

OK, before you flame me, I did my Diamond Goal in a 1-26 (twice).

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Old November 8th 06, 05:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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If the hawk had lice, would it increase his parasite drag?

"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stumbled across an interesting wind tunnel test of a Harris' Hawk
(L/D=10:1).

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/149/1/469.pdf



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Old November 8th 06, 06:54 AM
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I dont know what is more fascinating to me, the fact that a hawk has a L/D of 10:1 or that at least 2 boffins got paid for 4 months to measure it.

Seriosly, having shared airspace with a few feathered critters, I am amazed not in the gliding ability - (a wedgetail eagle is not as good as an LS-4!) -but in their ability to locate thermals. I am told its their fantastic eyesight, they can see bugs and dust rising better than we can.
I have actually had one wait for me to catch up, thermalling a blue day and although slightly off track, the birds judgement was close enough and hello, the strongest lift of the day!

As a side, Australian Wedgies are almost scary to fly with, they look at you with contempt and have taken a few bites at gliders in the past. Its probably a mating/ territory thing -Hang glider pilots can rightly be particularly nervous.
Pelicans are just magnificent but will seldom share a thermal with you, always leaving within a lap or two for quieter air. They seem to be un-affected by thermic gusts, perhaps due to their larger bulk.

Ibis are a great thermal marker, usually rotating in flocks and happy to have you churning around the outside of their core. Damn ugly, though.


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Old November 8th 06, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Good one.

"Roger Worden" wrote in message
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If the hawk had lice, would it increase his parasite drag?

"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stumbled across an interesting wind tunnel test of a Harris' Hawk
(L/D=10:1).

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/149/1/469.pdf





 




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