I've had it with Chinese tools!

When I needed a thin wall professional grade socket to remove the
connecting rod nuts on the big end of the con-rod of my Lyc O-360, the
only widely available socket that would fit in the small area of the
nut, was a 12 point tall socket from Sears. Even the Snap-on socket had
a larger outside diameter, and was too large to fit in the space
provided. YMMV

Bud

Juan Jimenez wrote:
I've had it with the El Cheapo Corp. tools I've been buying from vendors at
OSH and other places. When I really need them to deliver, they break or fail
to work as they should.

I need a set of QUALITY safety wire pliers (like the great ones we used to
use in the Marines in the late 70's and 80's, damn things always worked
perfectly), snips, needle nose pliers, wire cutters, etc. I'm not looking
for fancy displays at airshows or chrome plated crap or paying money for
brand names, I want reliable tools that I can rely on when I need them to do
their jobs.

Comments? Suggestions?



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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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At $100 a pop for the smallest set of safety wire pliers? I don't think
so. I am not interested in subsidizing airshow display trailers and
parties, performer sponsorships, etc. What I want is realiable tools at
reasonable prices.


The options a
1. Cheap
2. Good quality
3. Works well
You get to choose two...

Good quality tools cost a lot of money. They are made for professionals who
make a living with them. For those, $100 isn't much for a set of tools that
save them a lot of time every day and allow them to deliver high quality
work.

For us with occasional use of these tools it may not make sense to buy them
new, so the new options a
1. Buy second-hand
2. Rent from a high quality shop
3. Share by joining a builders club with good facilities and tools.

But as you already experienced, stay away from el-cheapo junk. It's
frustrating to work with and the result is usually disappointing too..

Rob

Good question. I'll have to wonder on in an look.
Lou



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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Hmm. Does ACE have things like safety wire pliers?

Check Sears.

Their website shows an SK pair for $84.99, or Craftsman 6 and 9 inch for
$99.99.

When my father was a salesman for SK back in the early 70s, they had a
lifetime guarantee. He also told me horror stories about Chineese tools.
Basically, they don't heat treat them enough, because it's a slow, expensive
process.

Juan Jimenez wrote:
Hmm. Does ACE have things like safety wire pliers?


For crying out loud, yawn, learn to safety by hand. I can safety one
handed in many places the pliers won't fit.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Juan Jimenez" wrote
I've had it with the El Cheapo Corp. tools. ....

Try Stahlwille, god German high quality tools.

"Rob Turk" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
.. .
At $100 a pop for the smallest set of safety wire pliers? I don't think
so. I am not interested in subsidizing airshow display trailers and
parties, performer sponsorships, etc. What I want is realiable tools at
reasonable prices.


The options a
1. Cheap

I said reasonable, not cheap.

Good quality tools cost a lot of money. They are made for professionals
who make a living with them. For those, $100 isn't much for a set of tools
that save them a lot of time every day and allow them to deliver high
quality work.

Again, I said $100 for a _single_ small safety wire pliers is excessive. If
you can get me the SET for $100, I agree it's a good price.

For us with occasional use of these tools it may not make sense to buy
them new, so the new options a
1. Buy second-hand
2. Rent from a high quality shop
3. Share by joining a builders club with good facilities and tools.

There's one more, frequent the pawn shops around large airports or large
aircraft maintenance or manufacture facilities. It worked well for me when I
lived in the DFW area but I live in the Caribbean now...

Juan



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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Hmm. Does ACE have things like safety wire pliers?

Check Sears.

Their website shows an SK pair for $84.99, or Craftsman 6 and 9 inch for
$99.99.

Each, or for the pair?

When my father was a salesman for SK back in the early 70s, they had a
lifetime guarantee. He also told me horror stories about Chineese tools.
Basically, they don't heat treat them enough, because it's a slow,
expensive process.

The SW pliers I bought suck because the tips don't even meet when you
tighten your grip. Part of it is my fault for not paying good attention when
I bought them.



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"Dan" wrote in message ...
Juan Jimenez wrote:
Hmm. Does ACE have things like safety wire pliers?


For crying out loud, yawn, learn to safety by hand. I can safety one
handed in many places the pliers won't fit.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Sure, Dan, and wheels used to be made out of rock too. You go.



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Interesting, I'll go check it out. Thanks!

"Owe R." wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote
I've had it with the El Cheapo Corp. tools. ....

Try Stahlwille, god German high quality tools.





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