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"Lou" wrote in message
... On Sep 7, 3:51 pm, "Todd W. Deckard" wrote: The vehicle owner carries the primary liability burden, not the driver. Make sure you disclose to your insurance agency that this is the intended use of the vehicle ... "Shirl" wrote in message news:Xmnushal8y- Here's the website: www.airportcarsclub.com How does that work re insurance if anyone and everyone is using it? How are you going to keep those batteries charged? If there is enough use to justify the program, then the battery charge should not be a problem. OTOH, if is is, then it will be the *least* of the maintenance problems! Peter |
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"Peter Dohm" wrote in message .. . "Ross" wrote in message ... Kobra wrote: Flyers, I was reading my Pilot Getaways Mag this morning and found an article about something I've been thinking about myself for years. It is an internet based Airport courtesy car club. I just signed up today because I have a POJ (piece of junk) that I keep at ACY and every time I go there I have a dead battery because I can't drive it enough. I've given several pilot friends the keys, but it's still rarely if ever used by them. This despite the fact that taxi fees are about 90 round trip with tip to get from the airport to town and it's a great location to fly for dinner, a show, the beach, boardwalk and of course gaming. I've always wished I could let more pilots know about the car and now there is just such a system. The only problem is that there is limited involvement, most likely due to lack of awareness. I have no association with this place, but I'm gonna give it a good sales pitch because I love this idea. It's free to join if you provide a car. It's 50 dollars per year if you just join. Taking a car is free! Just fill it back up and don't crash or trash it. Keys are kept at the local FBO or in a combination lockbox. Cars are reserved online. Car owners always have priority of their car even if it's reserved (within reason, you can't cancel someone just hours before their arrival) In all honesty, nothing could be fairer or more simplistic. They just need more members. I think there's just over 30 cars in 17 states, but I'm sure that's changing quickly. Here's the website: www.airportcarsclub.com I hope you guys are excited about this as I am, because I love to fly, but when I get somewhere I want to go out exploring, have lunch or dinner or sightsee. Smooth air to all, Kobra I thought I would put a car at a destination I go to alot but never did. I like this idea, but how does the liability insurance work? We are all "friends" but when an accident happens, we can turn against one another. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI A lot depends on how Airport Cars is actually organized; but if you are at all serious you can start by asking your insurance agent and then, if you are still interested, an attorney who specializes in business liability and risk management. This is a really series of specialties; but I don't recall the correct name. Peter Even though many insurance companies will cover you a borrowed car, many states hold the registered owner accountable for liability insurance. If your name is on the car, and the borrowers insurance company will not come forward in case of an accident, you're on the hook for the liability insurance coverage. |
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Just for the fun of it, you fly to an airport, borrow the car,
go to a resteraount, while your having lunch someone backs into the right rear quarter panel, leaves without notice and you don't see it. You return the car fly home, the next call you get is someone holding you responsible for an accident you don't know about. How does that work? Lou |
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"Lou" wrote in message ... How does that work? Obviously, insurance and liability issues constitute the major problem with this business model. Perhaps what the world needs is an airport car sharing service that also offers, and requires, appropriate insurance that protects users and owners. -- Vaughn .................................................. ....... Nothing personal, but if you are posting through Google Groups I may not receive your message. Google refuses to control the flood of spam messages originating in their system, so on any given day I may or may not have Google blocked. Try a real NNTP server & news reader program and you will never go back. All you need is access to an NNTP server (AKA "news server") and a news reader program. You probably already have a news reader program in your computer (Hint: Outlook Express). Assuming that your Usenet needs are modest, use http://news.aioe.org/ for free and/or http://www.teranews.com/ for a one-time $3.95 setup fee. .................................................. ........ Will poofread for food. |
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"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message ... "Lou" wrote in message ... How does that work? Obviously, insurance and liability issues constitute the major problem with this business model. Perhaps what the world needs is an airport car sharing service that also offers, and requires, appropriate insurance that protects users and owners. -- Vaughn I confess to having initially committed the same error as you--failure to read the rules posted on the "club" website. Take a look at the FAQ. All of the needed answers are there and the model does make sense for substantial number; but clearly a minority of pilots. Peter |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... "Kobra" wrote in message . .. It's free to join if you provide a car. It's 50 dollars per year if you just join. Taking a car is free! Just fill it back up and don't crash or trash it. It looks like providing a car is required for membership. Still a good idea, I just wanted to clarify that point. 1st year is free if you are the first one at your airport to join. Yes...you are correct...I misunderstood. Thanks for the correction. Kobra |
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message m... Well, let's see now. In order to join, I have to provide a car, maintain it, and insure it. To boot, I pay $50 a year for the privilege of borrowing somebody else's car that MIGHT be at the airport I'm headed for. That doesn't really sound like a heck of a deal to me. Now if it was $250 to join if I DIDN'T have to provide a car or free if I did, and if part of that $250 was rebated back to me as a function of useage of my car to help with the maintenance and insurance, it might be a little more tempting. Good points....AAMOF I forwarded your suggestion on to the owner of the site. He said giving money back to owners for usage gets sticky as far as insurance liability goes. He said he would consider other options similar to what you suggested so as not to muddy the waters Kobra |
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Yeah, things get "sticky". Twenty years ago we left a junker wagon at the
local airport with the keys at the fbo for anybody that fly in could use. The wagon got taken a couple of hundred miles away from the airport by an asshole that abandoned it for us to truck home. There were several comments that since the air conditioning wasn't working that they weren't going to put gas in it. When it got to the thousand dollar a year liability we pulled the plug. Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them a living because they are pilots. Don't come on here proclaiming your virtue; I have hard evidence to the contrary. -- "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." --Aristotle "Kobra" wrote in message . .. "RST Engineering" wrote in message m... .. Good points....AAMOF I forwarded your suggestion on to the owner of the site. He said giving money back to owners for usage gets sticky as far as insurance liability goes. He said he would consider other options similar to what you suggested so as not to muddy the waters |
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-- "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." --Aristotle "RST Engineering" wrote in message ... Yeah, things get "sticky". Twenty years ago we left a junker wagon at the local airport with the keys at the fbo for anybody that fly in could use. The wagon got taken a couple of hundred miles away from the airport by an asshole that abandoned it for us to truck home. There were several comments that since the air conditioning wasn't working that they weren't going to put gas in it. When it got to the thousand dollar a year liability we pulled the plug. Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them a living because they are pilots. Don't come on here proclaiming your virtue; I have hard evidence to the contrary. -- "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." --Aristotle "Kobra" wrote in message . .. "RST Engineering" wrote in message m... . Good points....AAMOF I forwarded your suggestion on to the owner of the site. He said giving money back to owners for usage gets sticky as far as insurance liability goes. He said he would consider other options similar to what you suggested so as not to muddy the waters |
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*most*??
The burden for proof is much higher for "most", but "some" is almost clearly true.... RST Engineering wrote: Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them a |
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