3rd class medical urinalysis?

Walt wrote:

I've always assumed it included drug screening.

if they did, they would charge you for the extra test,
haven't seen that on my bill yet. For the third class,
I reckon they just check whether your urine caramelises
or not...

--Sylvain

On Apr 17, 7:05 am, "Finn" wrote:
Hi all, going for my medical soon and was wondering if I will be
subject to a drug-screen urinalysis as well as other urine tests. I've
tried looking for the info but could not find it. thanks, Jon

Finn

Why be concerned with a drug screen? The two main reasons why people
might worry about a drug screen a
1) An idiot who is using illegal drugs which will prevent him/her from
being a good pilot
2) An idiot's attempt to hide a serious medical condition that would
impair his/her ability to fly

If niether of these apply to you, then are you trolling? Some may
think that drug use may only be picked up during a medical but that is
not the case. If you read FAR 91.17 carefully I think you will see
that a drug test can be performed anytime you fly an aircraft -if any
administrator or police officer has a suspicion you may be using drugs
or alcohol. But flying is a big enough high all by ityself so why
would you want to use drugs... (Why not spend the $ on actual
flight?).

Cheers

On Apr 16, 1:42 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Walt wrote:
On Apr 16, 1:05 pm, "Finn" wrote:
Hi all, going for my medical soon and was wondering if I will be
subject to a drug-screen urinalysis as well as other urine tests.
I've tried looking for the info but could not find it. thanks, Jon

I've always assumed it included drug screening.

I'm taking my 3rd-class medical tomorrow (Tuesday).

--Walt
Bozeman

YOu have assumed wrong they are checking your sugar levels. There isn't a
drug screen in the class 3 medical testing and there is no enabling law if
they wanted to.

That's why I never eat or drink anything other than water before the
test. After a meal your blood suger will read higher. It would really
be crappy to fail that little test and spend 6 months trying to prove
to the FAA that you are not diabetic.

-Robert

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:16:56 -0700, Sylvain wrote:

Walt wrote:

I've always assumed it included drug screening.

if they did, they would charge you for the extra test,
haven't seen that on my bill yet. For the third class,
I reckon they just check whether your urine caramelises
or not...

Or just that it's warm and yellow.

Don

Peter R. writes:

Just had my 3rd class medical here in the Northeast US and I am pretty sure
my urine analysis was to determine blood sugar levels only.

They're supposed to look at protein levels also. This is the same as a normal
physical exam.

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Rip writes:

Seriously, the urinalysis is, I believe, a simple sugar test to detect
the potential for diabetes. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Glycosuria (glucose in the urine, usually an indicator of diabetes mellitus),
and proteinuria (protein in the urine, occasionally an indicator of kidney
disease if there's more than a trace).

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Robert M. Gary writes:

That's why I never eat or drink anything other than water before the
test. After a meal your blood suger will read higher.

Your blood glucose will be higher, but normally there will be no glucose in
your urine unless you ate a truly massive or very sweet meal. Fasting
shouldn't be necessary if you are not diabetic. However, it certainly doesn't
hurt to fast.

Additionally, drinking water is a good idea, since very concentrated urine may
have more of a trace of protein in it, especially under some circumstances
(such as if you've been recently exercising a lot). Protein will raise
questions, too, if there's more than a trace.

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writes:

Why be concerned with a drug screen? The two main reasons why people
might worry about a drug screen a
1) An idiot who is using illegal drugs which will prevent him/her from
being a good pilot
2) An idiot's attempt to hide a serious medical condition that would
impair his/her ability to fly

Eating bagels made with poppy seeds can give you a positive drug test, even
though you've taken no drugs. For that matter, taking aspirin or vitamin C
before the test can make it look positive for glucose, too.

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Peter R. wrote:
On 4/16/2007 4:42:31 PM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

YOu have assumed wrong they are checking your sugar levels.

Missing punctuation caused me to read your sentence a few times
before I understood your point.

Sorry, I see your point and my lack of one.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:27:37 -0700, Robert M. Gary wrote:

That's why I never eat or drink anything other than water before the test.

I always drink extra coffee before the medical. I'd be terribly
embarrassed to have no pulse (not to mention that it might be
disqualifying), and coffee really gets my heart going.

- Andrew