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One might also note the tour length for John Kerry. Do we see a trend among political candidates to "fill the square" then leave? Apparently there was a lot of that in Vietnam too. Just because someone went, does not mean it was out of a nobel desire, many went for career progression purposes. While Kerry was probably trying to emulate John Kennedy, others went to Nam not for future political careers but to further their military career. Heck Bush could have been sent to Vietnam (he did volunteer but was considered too low time), and if he could have flown 50 missions and the Democrats would be criticising him for not having flown 100, and that he would have not done so because of his father and political influence. Ron PA-31T Cheyenne II Maharashtra Weather Modification Program Pune, India |
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"WalterM140" wrote in message ... ANG pilots were direct commissioned? No. All of them? None of them. |
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On 10 Jul 2004 16:30:15 GMT, (B2431) wrote:
From: Ed Rasimus On 10 Jul 2004 14:37:31 GMT, (WalterM140) wrote: Some of these people want to say Bush got no special treatment, but I don't know of any one who ever (at least since WWII) who got lieutenant's bars without going through OCS or some sort of officer qualification program. Bush went through a six week basic air man's course, and then got a commission. The "six week basic air man's (sic) course" is OTS. The President did what every other ANG input to USAF UPT does. He got his commission through OTS. You might also use the correct terminology while spouting your propaganda. The commissioning course is Officer Training School, not Officer Training School which was the term during WW II for Army "90 day wonders". Um, Ed? Minor typo there. I believe the second Officer Training School was supposed to be Officer Candidate School. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired Sometimes I get caught up in the moment. OCS is Officer Candidate School. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Subject: Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam
From: (WalterM140) Date: 7/10/2004 7:38 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: The one thing I can say about Bush, is that he was never a communist. I can't say the same about JFKerry. I don't vote for communists, pinko's, or listen much to people like you who do. Kerry is a decorated WIA veteran. He's not a communist. Step back from the Republican Party Kool-aid. Walt It's just neocon bitterness from a president and vice president who ever went to war when they damn well should have. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam
From: "D. Strang" Date: 7/10/2004 5:52 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: JDRHc.16699$r3.16681@okepread03 "WalterM140" wrote Ya know I really don't know what all the fuss was about here. Bush skipped out on the last two years of his commitment. That's one problem. JFKerry skipped out of his last 8 months in the war zone (after receiving three scratches in the line of duty). More neocon bitterness. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Dan wrote:
He went through OTS Actually the ANG calls it something different...at least they did in 1994 when I went through UPT with 4 Guardsmen. Little did they know that they were recieving special treatment. Please don't engage "Walt", he doesn't have a clue about the military or aviation and as such is not worth your time. IMHO, "Walt" is the worst troll I've seen here *ever*. At least Venik and the rest of the "Serb loonies" were discussing aviation related matters....fantasy aviation, but aviation none-the-less. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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