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Hmmm... the ASRAAM is it really a 'Short' range missile or an
AMRAAM????. It sort of gets a bit blurry with ASRAAM. Cheers John Cook Any spelling mistakes/grammatic errors are there purely to annoy. All opinions are mine, not TAFE's however much they beg me for them. Email Address :- Eurofighter Website :- http://www.eurofighter-typhoon.co.uk |
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John Cook wrote in message . ..
Hmmm... the ASRAAM is it really a 'Short' range missile or an AMRAAM????. It sort of gets a bit blurry with ASRAAM. I see your meaning, but in all fairness, there is really only one missile family known as "AMRAAM", and that is the AIM-120 series. I think the better (generic) term for the other missiles you are referring to would be "BVRAAM". Brooks Cheers John Cook |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"JGB" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message news:be9rkt$7ht$1that technical superiority rarely rates Actually it rates highly but so does security of supply and frankly thats not assured for the Python. Nonsense. Another excuse. It can always be manufactured in the States under license. Boeing will be manufacturing the Arrow II. That was not the deal offered, Rafael was trying to sell the missile not Boeing, US manufacturers were of course pushing Aim-9X Keith Add to that the fact that in December of 2000 Janes was reporting that Israel was blocking the potential manufacture of the Python 4 in the US; your point concerning security of supply becomes that much more meaningful in that light. Brooks |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"JGB" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message news:be9rkt$7ht$1that technical superiority rarely rates Actually it rates highly but so does security of supply and frankly thats not assured for the Python. Nonsense. Another excuse. It can always be manufactured in the States under license. Boeing will be manufacturing the Arrow II. That was not the deal offered, Rafael was trying to sell the missile not Boeing, US manufacturers were of course pushing Aim-9X Keith Are you familiar with the Polish helicopter deal a few years back with Israel that Beoing had quashed by leaning on congress to lean on Poland with not too subtle intimations regarding Poland's membership in NATO? That one cost ISrael $400 million in lost sales to Poland. $1.2 B contract with CHina for Phalcons, quashed. Past deals with Ecuador, PEru, Taiwan for Kfirs back in the '70s quashed. Trust me, Israel EARNS the aid the US gives it. It pays for it. |
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"JGB" wrote in message om... (Quant) wrote in message . com... Wrong as usual. China don't have the python 4 he talked about. And as usual you also know you're wrong (its called lying). I believe Israel sold China the Python 3, which is an old generation AAM from the 1980s, of no real threat to the US. But the Harpoon cruise missiles the US sold to EGypt are a very real, lethal threat to Israel. Python 3 provided a marked improvement in Chinese capability in comparison to the missiles previously in service and as an agile all aspect Mach 3 AA missile is a very real threat to ANY aircraft. Keith |
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"JGB" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message news:beaana$rsf$1 Are you familiar with the Polish helicopter deal a few years back with Israel that Beoing had quashed by leaning on congress to lean on Poland with not too subtle intimations regarding Poland's membership in NATO? That one cost ISrael $400 million in lost sales to Poland. $1.2 B contract with CHina for Phalcons, quashed. The US does tend to frown on the sale of advanced weapons systems to a potential adversary. The reasons are obvious I'd have thought. Past deals with Ecuador, PEru, Taiwan for Kfirs back in the '70s quashed. Kfir C2's were in fact sold to both Colombia (111) and Ecuador(12) in 1976 Trust me, Israel EARNS the aid the US gives it. It pays for it. What worries many of us is what the US is paying for it in terms of future security, selling advanced weapons to China isnt a very friendly act. Keith |
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Gee, are you "lying" here? What about Singapore....?
Singapore does not officially admit to have Python 4, but the telltale signs are there. Singapore's Vipers are equipped with the DASH-3 HMS, thus, make your own conclusion. Cheers |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"JGB" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... "JGB" wrote in message om... http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html They didnt, they bought ASRAAM instead. The article states Python was considered not that it was selected. http://www.airpowerint.com/dtol_arti...tol_hornet.htm www.adbr.com.au/data/ind_2000.htm Keith Oh, well, maybe Rafael will have better luck with its new version, Python 5, But then, we all know that technical superiority rarely rates Actually it rates highly but so does security of supply and frankly thats not assured for the Python. Keith What's wrong with the "security of supply" from Rafael? Chile preferred the python (Maybe because of the price). India also preferred it (One of the reasond probably was not trusting the American "security of supply"). |
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