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Old March 23rd 04, 04:29 AM
Chad Irby
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"The CO" wrote:

No real disagreement, I concur that half blind and wheelchair bound
or not, he was well worth removing. However it may increase the
level of attacks and inspire them to do something bigger.


They're trying to kill all of the Israelis already. What are they going
to do, kill 110% of the Israelis?

Some of the Hamas idiots are claiming that Israel had to get the
permission of the US to blow this guy up, and declared they were going
to start going after the US now.

You could practically hear Arafat's asshole puckering when that comment
came out.

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Old March 23rd 04, 07:14 AM
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"The CO" wrote:

2 observations.

1. The Israelis seem to have an absolute gift for picking off
important players.
2. They have solid titanium testicles considering
the backlash this might bring.


What backlash? More suicide bombers? They just killed the guy who's
been sending them in every day for the last several years. The
Palestinians have been looking to this guy as an example of defiance in
the face of Israel, and just found out that he was very, very mortal.

I guess they figure they have nothing much to lose. They might be
right.


Well, they lost one of the worst people on the face of the planet...


It seems to me that the ultimate "target rich environment" is the
black-hooded screaming mob with the green and white flags who jog through
the streets with the shredded-meat remnants of their latest martyr.
A couple dozen Mavericks into that surging sea of hatred would be an
efficient way of making a point.
I mean those folks HAVE identified themselves as 'combatants', have they
not?
The latest pronouncments from Hamas indicate they are now at WAR with
Israel. Therefore, they're enemy combatants.


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Old March 23rd 04, 07:22 AM
The CO
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"The CO" wrote:

No real disagreement, I concur that half blind and wheelchair bound
or not, he was well worth removing. However it may increase the
level of attacks and inspire them to do something bigger.


They're trying to kill all of the Israelis already. What are they

going
to do, kill 110% of the Israelis?


True enough. I suspect they'll be trying to come up with a Sept 11ish
mass killing
in revenge. Though it's fair to say that they would probably have done
that already
if they could.

Some of the Hamas idiots are claiming that Israel had to get the
permission of the US to blow this guy up, and declared they were going
to start going after the US now.


LOL. Sounds like a drunk in a pub that wants to fight everyone in the
bar.

You could practically hear Arafat's asshole puckering when that

comment
came out.


One wonders if there is a Hellfire with his name on it in his future
somewhere.

The CO


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Old March 23rd 04, 09:46 AM
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On the other hand, Iraq certainly is a lot more dangerous place now.


Iraq was dangerous place since it was created. It is probably the least
dangerous place now since its creation.

I was there with my father in 1961-1962, and *nothing* I've seen so far
is even half as scary.


Yes, just yesterday two of my countrymen were shot in this "safer" Iraq.


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Old March 23rd 04, 09:51 AM
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Oh, absolutely. Firing few Hellfire missiles in middle of group of
civilians hoping that enough people will die so that target is
amongst them is so much more smarter game.


If that were what had happened, you might have a point. Since that
*wasn't* what happened, you have none.


Which is pretty much what happened. Hence, the point.

Blowing up one of the most evil terrorists in the world and his
bodyguard does *not* compare to sending a ten year old kid with a bomb
in his bag to blow up a checkpoint, except as an object lesson.


If they'd only refrain to killing terrorists and their bodyguards. But they
don't.


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Old March 23rd 04, 05:40 PM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
"Yama" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Yama" wrote:
Oh, absolutely. Firing few Hellfire missiles in middle of group of
civilians hoping that enough people will die so that target is
amongst them is so much more smarter game.


If that were what had happened, you might have a point. Since that
*wasn't* what happened, you have none.


Which is pretty much what happened. Hence, the point.


Nope. There was a small number of people, out in the open, and the
target was right there and easy to see. Hence his getting blown to
hell.

Blowing up one of the most evil terrorists in the world and his
bodyguard does *not* compare to sending a ten year old kid with a bomb
in his bag to blow up a checkpoint, except as an object lesson.


If they'd only refrain to killing terrorists and their bodyguards. But they
don't.


If the terrorists and their bodyguards would stop hiding among
civilians, that sort of things would also stop happening. Even so, the
amount of collateral deaths is pretty darned low.

Does it bother you that you're arguing on behalf of some of the worst
human beings ever to walk (or roll) the face of the planet?

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Old March 23rd 04, 05:44 PM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
"Yama" wrote:

"D. Strang" wrote in message
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"Yama" wrote

On the other hand, Iraq certainly is a lot more dangerous place now.


Iraq was dangerous place since it was created. It is probably the least
dangerous place now since its creation.

I was there with my father in 1961-1962, and *nothing* I've seen so far
is even half as scary.


Yes, just yesterday two of my countrymen were shot in this "safer" Iraq.


Compare to the previous situation. They were averaging about _fifty_
times that, for the last twenty years or so.

Hell, the Hussein regime killed more Kurds in one *day* than there have
been Iraqis, American, Brits, and others killed in this entire *war*.

But I guess it doesn't count if the killings were done by a murderous
dictator. They get a free pass, right?

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Old March 23rd 04, 09:50 PM
Yama
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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Yes, just yesterday two of my countrymen were shot in this "safer" Iraq.


Compare to the previous situation. They were averaging about _fifty_
times that, for the last twenty years or so.


Not to claim that Saddam didn't get lot of people killed, but above is just
silly.

Hell, the Hussein regime killed more Kurds in one *day* than there have
been Iraqis, American, Brits, and others killed in this entire *war*.


Let it be absolutely clear that this most recent war killed LOT more than
5000 people. But hey, lets not get the facts on the way of a good rant.



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Old March 23rd 04, 09:53 PM
Yama
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Yama" wrote:
If that were what had happened, you might have a point. Since that
*wasn't* what happened, you have none.


Which is pretty much what happened. Hence, the point.


Nope. There was a small number of people, out in the open, and the
target was right there and easy to see. Hence his getting blown to
hell.


So, why they didn't use a sniper?

If they'd only refrain to killing terrorists and their bodyguards. But

they
don't.


If the terrorists and their bodyguards would stop hiding among
civilians, that sort of things would also stop happening. Even so, the
amount of collateral deaths is pretty darned low.


Read: I, or any of my close one wasn't amongst the "collateral damage" so
it's acceptable.

Does it bother you that you're arguing on behalf of some of the worst
human beings ever to walk (or roll) the face of the planet?


Who says I'm arguing *behalf* of anyone? I just happen to think that killing
him (and especially way it was done) was pretty bad idea from Israeli. Funny
that most governments of Western countries seem to agree with me, including
the USA.


  #30  
Old March 23rd 04, 10:08 PM
Michael Wise
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In article ,
Chad Irby wrote:

On the other hand, Iraq certainly is a lot more dangerous place now.

Iraq was dangerous place since it was created. It is probably the least
dangerous place now since its creation.

I was there with my father in 1961-1962, and *nothing* I've seen so far
is even half as scary.


Yes, just yesterday two of my countrymen were shot in this "safer" Iraq.


Compare to the previous situation. They were averaging about _fifty_
times that, for the last twenty years or so.

Hell, the Hussein regime killed more Kurds in one *day* than there have
been Iraqis, American, Brits, and others killed in this entire *war*.


Yes, and we knew they were killing Kurds and looked the other way while
they were doing it during the 80's.

--Mike
 




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