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Ivo prop
Hello,
Any comment about this prop. Will I be happy with an O200 on my Minicab (110kts expected)? thanks -- Minicab F-PRAZ Philippe Vessaire Ò¿Ó¬ |
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Ivo prop
On Apr 5, 1:59Â*am, Philippe Vessaire wrote:
Hello, Â* Â*Any comment about this prop. Will I be happy with an O200 Â*on my Minicab (110kts expected)? thanks -- Minicab F-PRAZ Â* Â* Philippe Vessaire Â*Ò¿Ó¬ The experience we had with an IVO wasn't good. It was on a Subaru using a redrive, so the input was smoother than a direct-drive would be, but still experience vibration caused by the blades shifting between the clamping plates. There have been several reports of Ivos throwing blades, and when you see how they're made it's easy to understand. The blades are mostly a high-density foam with a really thin skin of carbon fiber, and they're retained by means of two bolts through aluminum bushings in each blade root. There's enough slop that the blade can move tangentially in the hub, throwing the chordwise balance off. The Ivo pulled really well. Better than the Warp Drive we replaced it with. Dan |
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Ivo prop
I have 140 hours on IVO in my homebuilt with 200hp Franklin. The prop
plates are knurled and I have never seen any blade shifting - make sure to follow IVO instructions and for proper bolt torque and check the torque once in a while. I have some vibration but not excessive. There is an advantage to those plastic blades - had a near gear up landing and the blades broke "nicely" - no damage to the driveshaft (had it magnafluxed). The main advantage with my inflight adjustable IVO is good takeoff performance (I need it with my fast canard) and decent cruise. Some day when I have excess money I would like to try a Catto or similar wood prop for performance comparison. I have heard that IVO does not tolerate Lyc and other four bangers especially big ones. The torsional pulses are too great for the blades. A smooth six or auto adaption is not such problem. Ivo will not sell you a prop for a Lyc four banger. --------------------------------------- SQ2000 canard http://www.abri.com/sq2000 On Apr 5, 2:59 am, Philippe Vessaire wrote: Hello, Any comment about this prop. Will I be happy with an O200 on my Minicab (110kts expected)? thanks -- Minicab F-PRAZ Philippe Vessaire Ò¿Ó¬ |
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Ivo prop
On Apr 5, 12:31 pm, wrote:
I have 140 hours on IVO in my homebuilt with 200hp Franklin. The prop plates are knurled and I have never seen any blade shifting - make sure to follow IVO instructions and for proper bolt torque and check the torque once in a while. I have some vibration but not excessive. The prop we had was an earlier mode; no knurling on the plates. No matter how snug we got the bolts we still had some fretting. And because the bolts have clearance in the blade bushings, you can't get the blades aligned axactly opposite each other with any accuract, and the chordwise balance is off. You could pay for dynamic balancing but it would be off again the next time the prop was apart. I have heard that IVO does not tolerate Lyc and other four bangers especially big ones. The torsional pulses are too great for the blades. A smooth six or auto adaption is not such problem. Ivo will not sell you a prop for a Lyc four banger. Which goes to show how weak they are. I'd rather find a prop with a lot more margin and would settle for a fixed-pitch wooden prop before I'd use an IVO again. They did have a "Magnum" version that was supposed to be OK for the direct-drive applications, but maybe they've taken it out of those applications. I've often thought it would be interesting to adapt a larger helicopter tail rotor to a homebuilt propeller application. Mechanical, manual pitch control that has fewer gyroscopic issues, with its teetering action and automatic pitch differentiation to keep it aligned with the shaft. I think I'd want to try it on an airboat for a while, first. There are almost always unforseen issues. Maybe someone has already tried it? Dan |
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Ivo prop - balancing
On Apr 12, 2:12 pm, wrote:
...... and the chordwise balance is off. You could pay for dynamic balancing but it would be off again the next time the prop was apart. Not exactly true with knurled plates - the advice is to to reinstall the blades in the same "knurl position" as when taken off. This brings to mind the "balancing disk" (from http://www.balancemasters.com/ultralights.html ) I have installed. It seems to work. There is notable more vibration when I take it off. You can see a photo at http://www.abri.com/sq2000/balancer.jpg (hit reload if you get a permission error) Is anybody else using one of these? |
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