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"Quilljar" wrote in message ... I heard that choppers do not fly at all. It's just that the earth rejects them temporarily! :-) No, choppers do fly--the rotors beat the air into submission!!!! I know, spent 18 years flying them for the US Army. VBG Paul |
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"Paul Riley" wrote in
: "Quilljar" wrote in message ... I heard that choppers do not fly at all. It's just that the earth rejects them temporarily! :-) No, choppers do fly--the rotors beat the air into submission!!!! I know, spent 18 years flying them for the US Army. VBG It's a close match, though... ;-) - Al. -- To reply, insert dash in address to separate G and I in the domain |
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"Anonymous" wrote in message
... Well if you want to KEEP flying your plane instead of flying a field, then keeping the nose down is generally not a good idea... ;o) That all depends. But if the airplane is about the stall, the only way to avoid "flying a field" is to push on the stick. Keeping the nose down is *exactly* the good idea. Whereas with a helicopter, if you push the nose down and keep it just slightly tipped downwards, while making careful increases to the collective, you should be able to increase speed AND keep your altitude roughly the same. Note your use of "while making careful increases to the collective". Likewise, in an airplane, all that's necessary to maintain altitude is to make "careful increases to power". Pete |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in
: "Anonymous" wrote in message ... Well if you want to KEEP flying your plane instead of flying a field, then keeping the nose down is generally not a good idea... ;o) That all depends. But if the airplane is about the stall, the only way to avoid "flying a field" is to push on the stick. Keeping the nose down is *exactly* the good idea. Whereas with a helicopter, if you push the nose down and keep it just slightly tipped downwards, while making careful increases to the collective, you should be able to increase speed AND keep your altitude roughly the same. Note your use of "while making careful increases to the collective". Likewise, in an airplane, all that's necessary to maintain altitude is to make "careful increases to power". Forward flight on a helicopter is achieved by having the rotor disk tipped forward, which has to be done by tipping the body as well (to a lesser extent with a rigid hub, but still necessary). This is regardless of the power settings, altitude, rate-of-climb, et cetera. And you *will not climb* in any fixed wing aircraft with the nose pointed down. In a helo, this is typical behavior. - Al. -- To reply, insert dash in address to separate G and I in the domain |
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"Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message
. 8... Forward flight on a helicopter is achieved by having the rotor disk tipped forward Yes, I know that. So? And you *will not climb* in any fixed wing aircraft with the nose pointed down. I never said you would. In a helo, this is typical behavior. I never said it wasn't. Sorry...was there a point to your post? Pete |
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Paul Riley wrote:
"Quilljar" wrote in message ... I heard that choppers do not fly at all. It's just that the earth rejects them temporarily! :-) No, choppers do fly--the rotors beat the air into submission!!!! I know, spent 18 years flying them for the US Army. VBG Paul Yeah I know, I spent some time falling into the sea in them in the Royal Navy, in the mediterranean in winter ouch! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 03/11/2003 |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in
: "Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message . 8... Forward flight on a helicopter is achieved by having the rotor disk tipped forward Yes, I know that. So? And you *will not climb* in any fixed wing aircraft with the nose pointed down. I never said you would. In a helo, this is typical behavior. I never said it wasn't. Sorry...was there a point to your post? About as much point as your posts bandying about 'pointing a fixed- wing's nose down to go faster'. You can go even faster, eventually, by pointing the nose sraight up and killing throttle, too. So what? And in what way does this have anything whatsoever to do with the thread on instructing someone about helo flight? Lowering the nose to gain airspeed in a fixed wing is generally considered to be really poor flying skills, not to mention inviting overspeed situations. Descents are supposed to be strictly controlled, which is why you *reduce* power to accomplish them, and if you're lowering the nose to counter a stall, that means a) it's too damn high to begin with, and b) you don't know what the hell you're doing. Enough of a point? - Al. -- To reply, insert dash in address to separate G and I in the domain |
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"Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message
. 7... Lowering the nose to gain airspeed in a fixed wing is generally considered to be really poor flying skills, not to mention inviting overspeed situations. lol... Obviously not a pilot. Or at least, not a skilled one. There are numerous situations where airspeed is controlled with pitch, and the only way to increase airspeed with pitch is to lower the nose. For whatever reason, you have gotten your nose all bent out of shape for nothing. But you might want to stop before you've dug yourself even deeper. The more you talk about flying, the less it looks like you know. Pete |
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:23:55 -0800, "Peter Duniho"
wrote: "Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message .7... Lowering the nose to gain airspeed in a fixed wing is generally considered to be really poor flying skills, not to mention inviting overspeed situations. lol... Obviously not a pilot. Or at least, not a skilled one. Definitely one who's never done a loop... rj |
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