FBO's and WiFi

"Joachim Feise" wrote in message
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How well does Linux handle suspend/hibernate/resume? I've never tried
it,
myself.

A couple years back, the first time I put Linux on my laptop, the network
driver wouldn't work after a resume. At that time, reinitializing the
network
driver was required.
Nowadays, I don't experience any problems. Both wired and wireless network
come back to life just fine.

A couple years back, Windows was handling that just fine on my laptop.

Nice to hear Linux has caught up...

"Morgans" wrote in message ...
"John Galban" wrote in message
om...
Newps wrote in message
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Javier Henderson wrote:

I overnighted at CRQ on Friday, and used Western Flight for FBO
services.

I was pleasantly surprised to find out that they offer complimentary
WiFi
Internet access to their customers. Details are posted right on the
counter.

Is the range sufficient that, say, the guy in the tower might be able to
access the net?


You know how to use a Pringle's can, don't you??


http://www.time.com/time/archive/pre...260724,00.html

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Like I'm going to pay $2.50 to see a story on the net! NOT!

What??? I found the link on Google and it didn't ask me to pay
anything. It just showed the article. Go figure.

Sorry 'bout that.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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If you meant "Unless you are playing online computer games, you would
never
notice the lag while doing things a typical FBO is likely to do" you
should
have said so.

Of course you're right. This is, after all, the Usenet, and there's always
someone around willing to broaden your discussion in an attempt to discredit
you. Heaven forbib someone make a try at a little brevity, and leave out
critical clauses like "(or something like that)", or "(for example)", or
another parenthetical elaboration that would prevent the Usenet pundits from
distracting from the underlying point once again.

Thank you for the reminder.

(Then we'd ask why you thought you had to specifically count
out online computer games as something FBOs typically use.)

Actually, I mentioned online computer games specifically because there are a
handful that I could actually see being used in an FBO. Multiplayer flight
sims, for example. The other examples of things that latency would cause
problems with are farther afield, and in fact are things many people reading
my post would not have even heard of.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" writes:

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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If you meant "Unless you are playing online computer games, you would
never
notice the lag while doing things a typical FBO is likely to do" you
should
have said so.

Of course you're right. This is, after all, the Usenet, and there's always
someone around willing to broaden your discussion in an attempt to discredit
you.

Well, you *were* wrong.

Heaven forbib someone make a try at a little brevity, and leave out
critical clauses like "(or something like that)", or "(for example)", or
another parenthetical elaboration that would prevent the Usenet pundits from
distracting from the underlying point once again.

If you're going to say things that are wrong, you should know that someone
is likely to nail you. I depend on people doing that for me.

If you still think you'll never notice the lag, do as I suggested and set
up a voice call to me over a consumer satellite IP service. Do it from an
FBO if it makes you happy. I'll be *thrilled* if we don't "notice the lag."

--kyler

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
news
Well, you *were* wrong.

Hardly.

My statement was never intended to be the end-all, be-all enumeration of
situations in which the connection's latency would be noticed. My point was
and still is that it's not the kind of thing an FBO would be concerned with.
I mentioned games as something that, while probably still unusual, is a
situation in which someone at an FBO would notice the latency.

You took it upon yourself to broaden the intended interpretation of the
statement, and then correct it on that basis. Granted, that's typical
Usenet behavior, and that's all my most recent reply was intended to
acknowledge.

Pete

Which Linux are you using, and which laptop (model #)?

"Joachim Feise" wrote in message
...
Peter Duniho wrote:

A couple years back, Windows was handling that just fine on my laptop.

Well, still not on mine... Sometimes W2K hangs when trying to hibernate,
and I have to do a hard reset.

Nice to hear Linux has caught up...

At least it hibernates consistently, which I can't say for Windows.

-Joe

"Peter Duniho" wrote...
Darrel Toepfer wrote...
Ever tried VOIP over satellite?

I'm not aware of any FBO that is talking about using VOIP over a satellite
link. There are many applications for with the latency in a satellite
link
would be detrimental. That's not the point. The question is whether such
a
link would work for an FBO.

I think the original inquiry was as to the limitations of satellite supplied
IP service, those limitations were passed on from personal experiences. VOIP
is available through most IP networks, might as well take advantage of it if
its there...

I'd take issue with your claim that "network gaming as mentioned is
impossible", since that's not universally true (many online games work
fine
even with high latency), but it's not relevant at all to this discussion.

Fine, play checkers on Yahoo, knock yourself out. Don't cry too loudly when
you get kicked out for lagging the games found there...

Nearly 10 minutes per day spread over several days, twice a year...
Guaranteed to screw up something important that needed to be done,
everytime...

Doesn't sound like a problem that would preclude an FBO using a satellite
link.

As stated it will eventually effect something important that needed to be
done at that instant...

The weather station that is there now is fed via satellite, was replaced
awhile back when the terminal went under water for a time. Its unavailable
afterhours since the terminal is locked...

My local FBO will be supplied with an 802.11b repeater from my wireless
service, most if not all outbound ports will be blocked except for port
80... Service will be free to those that need access, my subscription
service already covers the north end of the runway... Now if they'd just
install one of those 24hr fueling stations... Have another wireless project
in the works at 3R7, so may duplicate the service there as well... They have
one of those 24 fueling stations... g

Darrel Toepfer
Eunice, La. 4R7

You probably shouldn't be trusted to maintain a Windows system then. None
of my Windows machines (all running Windows 2000 or Windows XP, including
two laptops) ever need a reboot. I let them go weeks, and they only get
rebooted for reasons unrelated to system stability (usually a software
install, new drivers, that sort of thing).

I'm afraid to ask which frequency version this is using.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)


Pete